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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Mon May 21, 2012 4:07 pm

WFC_Rob wrote:Too many people on here seem more bothered by the stigma attached to the signing of a striker over the age of 32 than what they can actually add to the team.

Drogba's available! :lol:

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Mon May 21, 2012 5:38 pm

WelshWalsallBen wrote:heard Super Kev and Connolly been mentioned.

My take on this. Club is in a bit of a rot with striker options. Every season we seem to have a Grandad has a striker and obvious we need pace. Everyone knows why player A has a decent career and bit like a horse needs somewhere to graze his final days.

Hoping for 2 players under 30. 1 year contract with option of a 2nd. Non league/League 2 or even Championship players with a point to prove,please no more oldies. The excuse of oh they bring experience and on there day can bang in a few goals getting a bit thin

Even get loan players in like Yeovil and Obika. Plenty of neighbours to ask Wolves, WBA even Villa.


If you're after pace, then why don't we try & sign Jo Kuffour? He's been released by Gillingham & everytime he's played against us he's caused us problems.Scores a few as well.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Mon May 21, 2012 5:40 pm

Rob Harvey wrote:David Noble has left Exeter?

I thought he was pretty decent, would do a job?

I rate him too. Also Ashley Hemmings, a young winger, is being released by Wolves. we're not too good at spotting young players released by Midlands clubs so I don't hold out much hope. Luke O'Neill, Ashley Chambers and James O'Shea were three who we should have been on to last season.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Mon May 21, 2012 6:46 pm

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Rob Harvey wrote:David Noble has left Exeter?

I thought he was pretty decent, would do a job?

I rate him too. Also Ashley Hemmings, a young winger, is being released by Wolves. we're not too good at spotting young players released by Midlands clubs so I don't hold out much hope. Luke O'Neill, Ashley Chambers and James O'Shea were three who we should have been on to last season.


ive watch hemmings play he is a very good player with pace wich we don't have and can score a goal or two :)

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Mon May 21, 2012 8:11 pm

WFC_Rob wrote:
WelshWalsallBen wrote:lower leagues M8 they are there. Stats prove it. Seem like we took a punt on Constable and Deeney then it dried up. Even now it's difficult though with how much some of the top players in conference or BNP as they call it now went for.

Loan players I would go for do the homework and do a season loan. Actually trust Smith as well did well with Flo and Mantom. I'll take anything over a OAP.

Remember Tommy Mooney? Despite being 36 years old when we signed him, he's probably the most effective striker we've had over the last few years.

Too many people on here seem more bothered by the stigma attached to the signing of a striker over the age of 32 than what they can actually add to the team. If we create enough chances, we won't need to find a lethal goal machine. We'd all love a team of 20-22 year olds playing fast-paced, scintilating football every week, but the reality is, sometimes you need that bit of nouse that comes with being a seasoned pro.


Don't worry about stigma if they are good enough it doesn't matter what age they are whether it's 30 odd or late teens. What I am saying is for the past couple of seasons we have been in a relegation battle. Having a oldie just isn't working.

Don't agree with the we won't need a lethal goal machine comment. In my view if we can get a striker who isn't past his sell by date and has the potential to knock in 12 -15 goals a season we can push on. If we just go out and get a Macken mark 2 striker we will go sideways.

Do remember Mooney well was a fave of mine. Not knocking the oldies at all. Just got to the point with me where I have been watching every home game for past 2 seasons relying on old war horses is not the right approach,

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Mon May 21, 2012 8:18 pm

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WelshWalsallBen wrote:heard Super Kev and Connolly been mentioned.

My take on this. Club is in a bit of a rot with striker options. Every season we seem to have a Grandad has a striker and obvious we need pace. Everyone knows why player A has a decent career and bit like a horse needs somewhere to graze his final days.

Hoping for 2 players under 30. 1 year contract with option of a 2nd. Non league/League 2 or even Championship players with a point to prove,please no more oldies. The excuse of oh they bring experience and on there day can bang in a few goals getting a bit thin

Even get loan players in like Yeovil and Obika. Plenty of neighbours to ask Wolves, WBA even Villa.


If you're after pace, then why don't we try & sign Jo Kuffour? He's been released by Gillingham & everytime he's played against us he's caused us problems.Scores a few as well.


Didn't score many last season. Did think he was good at Rovers though.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Mon May 21, 2012 10:19 pm

WelshWalsallBen wrote:
WFC_Rob wrote:
WelshWalsallBen wrote:lower leagues M8 they are there. Stats prove it. Seem like we took a punt on Constable and Deeney then it dried up. Even now it's difficult though with how much some of the top players in conference or BNP as they call it now went for.

Loan players I would go for do the homework and do a season loan. Actually trust Smith as well did well with Flo and Mantom. I'll take anything over a OAP.

Remember Tommy Mooney? Despite being 36 years old when we signed him, he's probably the most effective striker we've had over the last few years.

Too many people on here seem more bothered by the stigma attached to the signing of a striker over the age of 32 than what they can actually add to the team. If we create enough chances, we won't need to find a lethal goal machine. We'd all love a team of 20-22 year olds playing fast-paced, scintilating football every week, but the reality is, sometimes you need that bit of nouse that comes with being a seasoned pro.


Don't worry about stigma if they are good enough it doesn't matter what age they are whether it's 30 odd or late teens. What I am saying is for the past couple of seasons we have been in a relegation battle. Having a oldie just isn't working.

Don't agree with the we won't need a lethal goal machine comment. In my view if we can get a striker who isn't past his sell by date and has the potential to knock in 12 -15 goals a season we can push on. If we just go out and get a Macken mark 2 striker we will go sideways.

Do remember Mooney well was a fave of mine. Not knocking the oldies at all. Just got to the point with me where I have been watching every home game for past 2 seasons relying on old war horses is not the right approach,

You've got a very simplistic view of where the problems lie. What about our wingers, who barely created any goals between them all season? Or the central midfield that did nothing until the arrival of Cuvelier.

Macken did struggle to play two games a week and we were right not to offer him a new contract - but to suggest a younger striker will be the answer to all our problems is a tad naive, methinks.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 1:37 pm

WFC_Rob wrote:
WelshWalsallBen wrote:
WFC_Rob wrote:
WelshWalsallBen wrote:lower leagues M8 they are there. Stats prove it. Seem like we took a punt on Constable and Deeney then it dried up. Even now it's difficult though with how much some of the top players in conference or BNP as they call it now went for.

Loan players I would go for do the homework and do a season loan. Actually trust Smith as well did well with Flo and Mantom. I'll take anything over a OAP.

Remember Tommy Mooney? Despite being 36 years old when we signed him, he's probably the most effective striker we've had over the last few years.

Too many people on here seem more bothered by the stigma attached to the signing of a striker over the age of 32 than what they can actually add to the team. If we create enough chances, we won't need to find a lethal goal machine. We'd all love a team of 20-22 year olds playing fast-paced, scintilating football every week, but the reality is, sometimes you need that bit of nouse that comes with being a seasoned pro.


Don't worry about stigma if they are good enough it doesn't matter what age they are whether it's 30 odd or late teens. What I am saying is for the past couple of seasons we have been in a relegation battle. Having a oldie just isn't working.

Don't agree with the we won't need a lethal goal machine comment. In my view if we can get a striker who isn't past his sell by date and has the potential to knock in 12 -15 goals a season we can push on. If we just go out and get a Macken mark 2 striker we will go sideways.

Do remember Mooney well was a fave of mine. Not knocking the oldies at all. Just got to the point with me where I have been watching every home game for past 2 seasons relying on old war horses is not the right approach,

You've got a very simplistic view of where the problems lie. What about our wingers, who barely created any goals between them all season? Or the central midfield that did nothing until the arrival of Cuvelier.

Macken did struggle to play two games a week and we were right not to offer him a new contract - but to suggest a younger striker will be the answer to all our problems is a tad naive, methinks.


It's not hard is it. Simplistic errr ok It's from watching every home game from the past 3 seasons bar 1-2 games. Out of interest do u go games often just asking as just wondering where your comming from with your points. [Not intended as a swipe]

Past 2 seasons we have had a old warhorse and it didn't work look at the stats they don't lie. Didn't say a young striker will be a answer to our problems. What I was saying is a younger striker who is capable of knocking in 12-15 goals and then has the potential to stay with us long term.

As for the wingers well we didn't really have out and out wingers all through the season. That adds to my view of u need a striker who has a bit of pace to create for himself.

As for Flo my take was Mantom and Flo.

Can see we have 2 different fair enough will be interesting to see who we go with. Vassell, Super Kev Conn = Ground Hog day.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 2:00 pm

WelshWalsallBen wrote:
WFC_Rob wrote:
WelshWalsallBen wrote:
WFC_Rob wrote:
WelshWalsallBen wrote:lower leagues M8 they are there. Stats prove it. Seem like we took a punt on Constable and Deeney then it dried up. Even now it's difficult though with how much some of the top players in conference or BNP as they call it now went for.

Loan players I would go for do the homework and do a season loan. Actually trust Smith as well did well with Flo and Mantom. I'll take anything over a OAP.

Remember Tommy Mooney? Despite being 36 years old when we signed him, he's probably the most effective striker we've had over the last few years.

Too many people on here seem more bothered by the stigma attached to the signing of a striker over the age of 32 than what they can actually add to the team. If we create enough chances, we won't need to find a lethal goal machine. We'd all love a team of 20-22 year olds playing fast-paced, scintilating football every week, but the reality is, sometimes you need that bit of nouse that comes with being a seasoned pro.


Don't worry about stigma if they are good enough it doesn't matter what age they are whether it's 30 odd or late teens. What I am saying is for the past couple of seasons we have been in a relegation battle. Having a oldie just isn't working.

Don't agree with the we won't need a lethal goal machine comment. In my view if we can get a striker who isn't past his sell by date and has the potential to knock in 12 -15 goals a season we can push on. If we just go out and get a Macken mark 2 striker we will go sideways.

Do remember Mooney well was a fave of mine. Not knocking the oldies at all. Just got to the point with me where I have been watching every home game for past 2 seasons relying on old war horses is not the right approach,

You've got a very simplistic view of where the problems lie. What about our wingers, who barely created any goals between them all season? Or the central midfield that did nothing until the arrival of Cuvelier.

Macken did struggle to play two games a week and we were right not to offer him a new contract - but to suggest a younger striker will be the answer to all our problems is a tad naive, methinks.


It's not hard is it. Simplistic errr ok It's from watching every home game from the past 3 seasons bar 1-2 games. Out of interest do u go games often just asking as just wondering where your comming from with your points. [Not intended as a swipe]

Past 2 seasons we have had a old warhorse and it didn't work look at the stats they don't lie. Didn't say a young striker will be a answer to our problems. What I was saying is a younger striker who is capable of knocking in 12-15 goals and then has the potential to stay with us long term.

As for the wingers well we didn't really have out and out wingers all through the season. That adds to my view of u need a striker who has a bit of pace to create for himself.

As for Flo my take was Mantom and Flo.

Can see we have 2 different fair enough will be interesting to see who we go with. Vassell, Super Kev Conn = Ground Hog day.

No offence taken. I've been to 90% of our home games for about the last 9 years - and a fair few away from home too.

Finding a striker who can create chances for himself is near impossible, unless you're playing in the Champions League.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 2:27 pm

Not sure if he's been mentioned but Michael Symes has been released by Bournemouth. he's always been impressived when we've played them, think he's struggled with injuries lately though

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 2:33 pm

Ledesma's agent confirms he is in talks with Middlesbrough and that two other Championship clubs are interested... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... Boro-talks

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 2:37 pm

1933 wrote:Ledesma's agent confirms he is in talks with Middlesbrough and that two other Championship clubs are interested... http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... Boro-talks

Bugger.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 4:00 pm

Knew he'd drop us like a stone.................AGAIN.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 4:09 pm

Aldridge_saddler wrote:Knew he'd drop us like a stone.................AGAIN.


Indeed. not going to blame the club or player for this. Twas always going to happen.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 4:32 pm

Fray Bentos is God! wrote:
Aldridge_saddler wrote:Knew he'd drop us like a stone.................AGAIN.


Indeed. not going to blame the club or player for this. Twas always going to happen.


Not really dropping us is he?

He has an unborn child on the way - what are you going to do ? Stay at Walsall for less in a crap team, in an average stadium? Or.... probably triple your money at Middlesborough and play at the Riverside?

hmmmmmmmmmm.

As Gary said - it was always going to happen. Too good for us and good luck to him.

I just hope the money we obviously set aside for him is now invested in a player approaching his ability.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 6:21 pm

Saarland Saddler wrote:
Fray Bentos is God! wrote:
Aldridge_saddler wrote:Knew he'd drop us like a stone.................AGAIN.


Indeed. not going to blame the club or player for this. Twas always going to happen.


Not really dropping us is he?

He has an unborn child on the way - what are you going to do ? Stay at Walsall for less in a crud team, in an average stadium? Or.... probably triple your money at Middlesborough and play at the Riverside?

hmmmmmmmmmm.

As Gary said - it was always going to happen. Too good for us and good luck to him.

I just hope the money we obviously set aside for him is now invested in a player approaching his ability.


Agree with every sentence of that!

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Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 6:45 pm

I'll offer even money that he ends up back with us for the last month of next season on loan from whichever Championship club he goes to. Just in time to bolster our play off push.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Tue May 22, 2012 7:37 pm

so Ledesma is off to the Championship and we get to use his wages elsewhere ...so..............thats 5 awful players signing soon then. who have Bradford or say Burton released ? I see us going for players who will keep us in the bottom 6

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Wed May 23, 2012 3:27 pm

Frank Nouble released today, only waiting for Boateng to be released and then Mashiter can russle up an old story. :mrgreen:

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Wed May 23, 2012 3:58 pm

:lol:
Jockey wrote:Frank Nouble released today, only waiting for Boateng to be released and then Mashiter can russle up an old story. :mrgreen:

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Wed May 23, 2012 4:43 pm

Sounds from this article like Marc Richards doesn't want to uproot his family from Rugeley. If only there was a League One club that trained in the area!
http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/ ... -1-4574534

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Wed May 23, 2012 6:59 pm

Registered Saddler wrote:Sounds from this article like Marc Richards doesn't want to uproot his family from Rugeley. If only there was a League One club that trained in the area!
http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/ ... -1-4574534


Would be a good shout - good pedigree with his upbringing at Blackburn and can score goals.

Doesn't bode well though when someone likes living in Rugeley :wink:

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Registered Saddler wrote:Sounds from this article like Marc Richards doesn't want to uproot his family from Rugeley. If only there was a League One club that trained in the area!
http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/ ... -1-4574534


Would be a good shout - good pedigree with his upbringing at Blackburn and can score goals.

Doesn't bode well though when someone likes living in Rugeley :wink:

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Thu May 24, 2012 8:27 am

Former loanee Andrew Davies has signed a one year deal with Bradford City after being on loan there for most of last season. Centre half isn't really a priority position for ourselves but from what I've seen of him, thought he could cut it at our level at least.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Thu May 24, 2012 10:33 am

Rushall Saddler wrote:Former loanee Andrew Davies has signed a one year deal with Bradford City after being on loan there for most of last season. Centre half isn't really a priority position for ourselves but from what I've seen of him, thought he could cut it at our level at least.

If he could stay fit for as much as 75% of a full season, he wouldn't be playing in League Two.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Thu May 24, 2012 10:37 am

WFC_Rob wrote:
Rushall Saddler wrote:Former loanee Andrew Davies has signed a one year deal with Bradford City after being on loan there for most of last season. Centre half isn't really a priority position for ourselves but from what I've seen of him, thought he could cut it at our level at least.

If he could stay fit for as much as 75% of a full season, he wouldn't be playing in League Two.


Yeah, whenever you see his name in a sentence, the word 'blighted' isn't usually too far away. :D

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Thu May 24, 2012 11:27 am

Rushall Saddler wrote:Former loanee Andrew Davies has signed a one year deal with Bradford City after being on loan there for most of last season. Centre half isn't really a priority position for ourselves but from what I've seen of him, thought he could cut it at our level at least.


Have to disagree.....We are not going to go the whole season with Buts and Smith playing every game. Injury's and suspensions and then what? Beevers as stand in? Another good CB is def a requirement.

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Re: Summer Transfer Rumours 2012

Thu May 24, 2012 12:17 pm

Rich Evans wrote:
deanonev69 wrote:
Registered Saddler wrote:Sounds from this article like Marc Richards doesn't want to uproot his family from Rugeley. If only there was a League One club that trained in the area!
http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/sport/ ... -1-4574534


Would be a good shout - good pedigree with his upbringing at Blackburn and can score goals.

Doesn't bode well though when someone likes living in Rugeley :wink:

Allegedly signed for chesterfield .

Oh yeah you're right. People seem to be saying for £3k-£4k a week. Incidentally, Williams to Swindon for £5k a week (mentioned further up) seems to be close too. Overpriced :?

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