
Wonder if someone can help him filling up her tank?
saddla wrote:Robert Joyce, a tax expert from the Institute for Fiscal Studies was talking about raising taxes for high earners.If you have somebody currently paying the 45p tax rate, you raise that to 50p and there is no change in behaviour then the excequer gains an extra 5p in the pound.
But if they decide to try to reduce their tax bill by saving more into their pensions, for example, or indeed decide to work fewer hours, then you lose 45p in the pound as well as some National Insurance.
So you only need one person in 10 to change their behaviour and you don't make any money from raising the tax.
Any more than 1 in 10 and the tax income actually falls.
swampysaddler wrote:Oh dear.
And this clown wants to run this country but can't work out costs of his own pledges.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40090520
Exile wrote:swampysaddler wrote:Oh dear.
And this clown wants to run this country but can't work out costs of his own pledges.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40090520
Yes, easy to bag Labour for not remembering off the top of their heads at every occasion, but how about the Tories?
What will their manifesto cost you? You don't know because they've not costed anything. Ominous...
Exile wrote:swampysaddler wrote:Oh dear.
And this clown wants to run this country but can't work out costs of his own pledges.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40090520
Yes, easy to bag Labour for not remembering off the top of their heads at every occasion, but how about the Tories?
What will their manifesto cost you? You don't know because they've not costed anything. Ominous...
Cully wrote:Exile wrote:swampysaddler wrote:Oh dear.
And this clown wants to run this country but can't work out costs of his own pledges.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40090520
Yes, easy to bag Labour for not remembering off the top of their heads at every occasion, but how about the Tories?
What will their manifesto cost you? You don't know because they've not costed anything. Ominous...
I don't blame Corbyn for being a bit of a thicko, if he can't remember or doesn't know he can always make something up like Dianne Abbott who regularly forgets the odd manifesto costing such as the cost of employing 10,000 police officers just like John Mc Donnell who can't remember the total cost of Labours manifesto pledges but said it was an affordable sum unlike his colleague Angela Rayner, labour foghorn, who regular makes up uncosted pledges which she says 'have yet to be costed.'
To be honest I don't really care that much about your unrepresentative and out of touch retched Labour Party but I can see you're desperate for a few costings so why don't you make some up for them, it won't matter what ever you cook up because nobody in this country takes them seriously.
On a positive note, the shadow cabinet are the weirdest bunch of characters I have witnessed in my lifetime, no mean achievement :D
Exile wrote:Speaking of muddling numbers, here's the chancellor in a major gaffe, losing £20,000,000,000 in a live interview. Funnily enough it didn't get major media coverage...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 42006.html
...and then there's the scrapping of school lunches, with breakfast budgeted at 7p per child instead...
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/tory-free ... m-6658186/
When they do have figures, they don't add up. Makes you wonder about the rest of it.
SaigonSaddler wrote:Exile wrote:Speaking of muddling numbers, here's the chancellor in a major gaffe, losing £20,000,000,000 in a live interview. Funnily enough it didn't get major media coverage...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 42006.html
...and then there's the scrapping of school lunches, with breakfast budgeted at 7p per child instead...
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/tory-free ... m-6658186/
When they do have figures, they don't add up. Makes you wonder about the rest of it.
The paradox is in how May and chums sprinkle glitter on what is the poisonous slime of their own deceitful effluent.
It's like a vile abscess that will only burst after people have voted, hoping for the best yet perched on the precipice of their own doom. :x
Cully wrote:SaigonSaddler wrote:Exile wrote:Speaking of muddling numbers, here's the chancellor in a major gaffe, losing £20,000,000,000 in a live interview. Funnily enough it didn't get major media coverage...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 42006.html
...and then there's the scrapping of school lunches, with breakfast budgeted at 7p per child instead...
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/tory-free ... m-6658186/
When they do have figures, they don't add up. Makes you wonder about the rest of it.
The paradox is in how May and chums sprinkle glitter on what is the poisonous slime of their own deceitful effluent.
It's like a vile abscess that will only burst after people have voted, hoping for the best yet perched on the precipice of their own doom. :x
Good use of the English language there Saigon, I'll have to give you an 'A' for descriptive writing, I was gripped until the very last word but then I remembered your lavish praise for Corbyn after his "statesman like performance" on tv when you raised the bar for his god like status by declaring rather generously that he was "less of an imbecile than you previously thought". I've just checked my online synonyms thesaurus and you could have used halfwit or simpleton which in my opinion would have been kinder. :D
Have you ever thought of pursuing a career as an English teacher?
saddlerken wrote:Trust the polls or the bookies?
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats
Imagine Labour had been in power since 2010, and Corbyn had risen through the ranks to Home Secretary, then party leader on the back of a desperate campaign promise to hold a referendum on the EU, that he didn't agree with but now has to push through despite his principles being on the other side of the debate.
During this time, he'd have been responsible for:
- slashing 20,000 police jobs (conveniently taking us back to the 70s in terms of police numbers)
- decimating the UK Border Agency budget, ensuring millions annually came through UK ports and airports without proper checks
- 'Losing' files on a parliamentary paedophile ring
- introducing a dementia tax in his manifesto
- cutting 30% off disability benefits, while outsourcing the cuts to a private company that costs more than the savings it has made
- signing an arms deal with an Arab nation that openly supports Islamic extremism and terrorists
- cutting free school meals
- failing to properly fund the NHS
- stripping the armed forces of 20,000 soldiers, 8,500 airmen and 5,500 naval staff
- stopping the bursary for trainee nurses
- going against staff number recommendations and refused pay rises for nurses, doctors, firefighters, armed forces, civil service
- telling poor people that getting a job is a way out of poverty, ignoring the fact that many poor are in vulnerbale jobs working zero hour contracts with no security of pay
- overseeing a huge increase in the number of citizens using food banks
Now imagine that during this time he's been telling everyone that the cuts are necessary, and that you're all in it together.
Also during this time every single financial target his government set has been missed, and debt has more than doubled.
Then along comes an election he called, after promising not to call one, and he produces an uncosted manifesto full of vacuous ephemera, no substance, and tells you he's strong and stable.
Q1 - What do you think the media would say about that?
Q2 - Why aren't they saying it about May and the tories?
Exile wrote:Imagine Labour had been in power since 2010, and Corbyn had risen through the ranks to Home Secretary, then party leader on the back of a desperate campaign promise to hold a referendum on the EU, that he didn't agree with but now has to push through despite his principles being on the other side of the debate.
During this time, he'd have been responsible for:
- slashing 20,000 police jobs (conveniently taking us back to the 70s in terms of police numbers)
- decimating the UK Border Agency budget, ensuring millions annually came through UK ports and airports without proper checks
- 'Losing' files on a parliamentary paedophile ring
- introducing a dementia tax in his manifesto
- cutting 30% off disability benefits, while outsourcing the cuts to a private company that costs more than the savings it has made
- signing an arms deal with an Arab nation that openly supports Islamic extremism and terrorists
- cutting free school meals
- failing to properly fund the NHS
- stripping the armed forces of 20,000 soldiers, 8,500 airmen and 5,500 naval staff
- stopping the bursary for trainee nurses
- going against staff number recommendations and refused pay rises for nurses, doctors, firefighters, armed forces, civil service
- telling poor people that getting a job is a way out of poverty, ignoring the fact that many poor are in vulnerbale jobs working zero hour contracts with no security of pay
- overseeing a huge increase in the number of citizens using food banks
Now imagine that during this time he's been telling everyone that the cuts are necessary, and that you're all in it together.
Also during this time every single financial target his government set has been missed, and debt has more than doubled.
Then along comes an election he called, after promising not to call one, and he produces an uncosted manifesto full of vacuous ephemera, no substance, and tells you he's strong and stable.
Q1 - What do you think the media would say about that?
Q2 - Why aren't they saying it about May and the tories?
Nudge...
Optimistic wrote: Then we need them to understand what real people want and need and I do think we are getting there.
Guest wrote:Theresa May speaks ...
SaigonSaddler wrote:This is an example of strong and stable?
Self-servatives got ripped a new one tonight, and May wasn't anywhere to be found.
Not AWOL, MAYWOL.
Cowshed wrote:A free party political broadcast for the tories more like
It was important that Corbyn was there to answer before millions the question of
How many
Answer
Floodgates open
The summer Mediterranean crossings are preparing for the Corbyn thumbs up on June 9th
Just keep on asking him
How many
PT wrote:SaigonSaddler wrote:This is an example of strong and stable?
Self-servatives got ripped a new one tonight, and May wasn't anywhere to be found.
Not AWOL, MAYWOL.
Exile wrote:Speaking of muddling numbers, here's the chancellor in a major gaffe, losing £20,000,000,000 in a live interview. Funnily enough it didn't get major media coverage...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 42006.html
...and then there's the scrapping of school lunches, with breakfast budgeted at 7p per child instead...
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/24/tory-free ... m-6658186/
When they do have figures, they don't add up. Makes you wonder about the rest of it.
saddla wrote:very interesting read from the Institute of fiscal studies:
Neither Conservatives nor Labour are properly spelling out consequences of their policy proposals
https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/9259
They're all lying to us :shock:
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