redsaddler wrote:Harper: Not sure which wing he was playing on (both?!), but he produced a workmanlike performance. Lucky not to be punished for a stamp on Bennett in the first half. 7.
King Crimson wrote:WFC_Rob wrote:One other thing - we were 1-0 up at the end of the game and had only used 2 substitutes. What is it about Walsall managers not using their substitutions to run down the clock? Every other club seems to do it - take the player furthest from the dugout off to waste time. Cooper could have easily been replaced by Ishmel to run the clock down. I know it's a bit picky, but it seems like a professional thing to do to me.
Good post. You only wrote that 'cos you heard me shouting about it to your Dad! :roll:
:wink:
cyclothymic wrote:Lovely sunny early Spring afternoon, 3 points against a side who would not have noticed if there was not a ball on the pitch, good performances all round with some lovely passing football at times, Keates cool as a cucumber with the pen, I am happy with that.
To expect much against a side as physical as Chester is wrong - they were allowed to foul time and again because the ref refused to show some early cards. We won't have to play them again (unless they get a cup run) for a good few years :D
Oh - and lucky Anthony got a 4-day cruise for MOTM. Beats a tray of bitter!
philthesaddler wrote:cyclothymic wrote:Lovely sunny early Spring afternoon, 3 points against a side who would not have noticed if there was not a ball on the pitch, good performances all round with some lovely passing football at times, Keates cool as a cucumber with the pen, I am happy with that.
To expect much against a side as physical as Chester is wrong - they were allowed to foul time and again because the ref refused to show some early cards. We won't have to play them again (unless they get a cup run) for a good few years :D
Oh - and lucky Anthony got a 4-day cruise for MOTM. Beats a tray of bitter!
:lol: :lol:
4 days??? Thats not long, what do they do? Get to Cherbourg, turn round and come back??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bernie wrote:am I the only one to be bemused by Cooper yesterday.
Magic Man Fan wrote:Bernie wrote:but am I the only one to be bemused by Cooper yesterday. Did he put even one cross over?
No, read what I put above. One rule for Wright, one rule for Cooper and we know Cooper is the far more talented player so should get more criticism.
philthesaddler wrote:I think Coopers performance would be aided greatly if Danny Fox could be arsed to move forward at any time, thus taking away the attention of at least one of the opposition players, but his complete lazyness and unwillingness to overlap and therefore support Cooper makes Coopers job all the harder.
philthesaddler wrote:I'm not disagreeing with Mark and co, I definately feel he wasn't as lively yesterday, but you also have to realise that he set a precendent with his performance against Barnet, which would be very hard to match on a consistent basis
philthesaddler wrote:Having said that, I do take exception to comparing Cooper to Wright. Even a poor performance by Cooper was one thousand times better than a normal Mark Wright performance. Cooper has strenght, vision, skill, he can keep the ball, he can find another red shirt - all attributes Mark Wright sadly lacks. So to derive praise for Mark Wright from an under-par performance from Coops is a bit far fetched and a desperate attempt to defend some one who has been mediocre at best and is now not considered good enough in League 2.
Magic Man Fan wrote:redsaddler wrote:Harper: Not sure which wing he was playing on (both?!), but he produced a workmanlike performance. Lucky not to be punished for a stamp on Bennett in the first half. 7.
Thought I was the only was that saw that stamp. Typical of the ref today, it was quite clear to me yet he didn't see it. Fair play to Harper, they deserved some of that treatment back. If everyone had dished it out the ref might have acted sooner.
redsaddler wrote:Magic Man Fan wrote:redsaddler wrote:Harper: Not sure which wing he was playing on (both?!), but he produced a workmanlike performance. Lucky not to be punished for a stamp on Bennett in the first half. 7.
Thought I was the only was that saw that stamp. Typical of the ref today, it was quite clear to me yet he didn't see it. Fair play to Harper, they deserved some of that treatment back. If everyone had dished it out the ref might have acted sooner.
Were we the only two to see Harper's stamp on Bennett? Did anyone else see it? If so, what did you make of it?
WarsawPact wrote:I saw it, but I thought it was accidental as he lost his balance.
Just going back to Cooper, I dread to think what the crowd's reaction would have been if it had been Wright who'd put that crossfield ball 15 yards behind Pead in the 2nd half.
Pead had an excellent game by the way (IMO)
dancingsaddler wrote:WarsawPact wrote:I saw it, but I thought it was accidental as he lost his balance.
Just going back to Cooper, I dread to think what the crowd's reaction would have been if it had been Wright who'd put that crossfield ball 15 yards behind Pead in the 2nd half.
Pead had an excellent game by the way (IMO)
I thought Pead was MOTM personally!
Bernie wrote:Neil Ravenscroft wrote:Bernie wrote:am I the only one to be bemused by Cooper yesterday.
Yes.
A typically arrogant response.
Has it occured to you that not everyone will agree with you?
moanin old git wrote:philthesaddler wrote:I think Cooper was a bit quiet, but the other thing I noticed was the way both Harper and Cooper were reluctant to cross, opting instead to find the overlap or come inside, so in a sense, neither Harper nor Cooper were playing as traditional wingers. Whether this was because they were sticking 10 men behind the ball all the time, I'm not sure.
I think Coopers performance would be aided greatly if Danny Fox could be arsed to move forward at any time, thus taking away the attention of at least one of the opposition players, but his complete lazyness and unwillingness to overlap and therefore support Cooper makes Coopers job all the harder.
I'm not disagreeing with Mark and co, I definately feel he wasn't as lively yesterday, but you also have to realise that he set a precendent with his performance against Barnet, which would be very hard to match on a consistent basis, coupled with the frustrating lethargic approach of Fox, Coopers performance wasn't the best.
Having said that, I do take exception to comparing Cooper to Wright. Even a poor performance by Cooper was one thousand times better than a normal Mark Wright performance. Cooper has strenght, vision, skill, he can keep the ball, he can find another red shirt - all attributes Mark Wright sadly lacks. So to derive praise for Mark Wright from an under-par performance from Coops is a bit far fetched and a desperate attempt to defend some one who has been mediocre at best and is now not considered good enough in League 2.
I usually agree with most of your posts mate but this constant critisism of Wrighty gets on my fools a little.....
when we look back at earlier in the season, and, as I have said many times b4, how many of our early season goals
came via the runs/crosses etc of wrighty???
Yes, he ducks out of tackles at times, he is lazy, looses interest at times, but who dosen't, when you consider
some of Butlers performances of late, I tend to wonder which of the two should be on the pitch?
I know the very idea of critisism of this mythical god like creature called Butler will raise a few eyebrows,
but he is a striker? Yes? how many of our goals have come from him lately?
that post should stir some agro............
Leamore Saddler wrote:Neil - good report but I must query your description of Sam's off-the-ball movement. Firstly, I was shocked to see the words 'Sam' and 'running' in the same sentence. :shock: He, Pead and Dobson are definitely our slowest players, You describe his movement as 'exemplary'. Well, if you mean by that, an example of what NOT to do, I will agree with you. I don't know whether this is the flip-side of your "I hate James Constable" campaign by bulling up Hector Sam to be something that he clearly isn't but there is no way, in my opinion, that Hector's off-the-ball movement could be described as good.
He does not come alive until he has the ball at his feet. He showed some true class when his shot unluckily hit the post - that deserved a goal. However, having studied him closely, over many games, at home and away, I have still to be convinced that he is good enough, even at this crappy level. In the first half, I looked up from my programme ( :D ) to watch a cross come over from our left wing. Hector Sam, making a rare and welcome visit to the opponents' goal-area, promptly ducked down behind two of the Chester gorillas, making himself unavailable for the cross. In the second half, North Staffs Saddler and I watched HS closely. When Foxy, or possibly Taylor, advanced forward, with the ball, no passing opportunities were on. Butler then broke wide to the left while Sam just [b]STOOD STILL at the far right corner of their penalty-area, doing absolutely nothing![/b] Movement, my a**e!!!
MMF and Phil - you make a very good point about Foxy inhibiting the play of Cooper. However, has it not occurred to you that he is only playing to his manager's instructions? In which case, we know who is responsible. Just a thought.............
Leamore Saddler wrote:Neil - good report but I must query your description of Sam's off-the-ball movement. Firstly, I was shocked to see the words 'Sam' and 'running' in the same sentence. :shock: He, Pead and Dobson are definitely our slowest players, You describe his movement as 'exemplary'. Well, if you mean by that, an example of what NOT to do, I will agree with you. I don't know whether this is the flip-side of your "I hate James Constable" campaign by bulling up Hector Sam to be something that he clearly isn't but there is no way, in my opinion, that Hector's off-the-ball movement could be described as good.
He does not come alive until he has the ball at his feet. He showed some true class when his shot unluckily hit the post - that deserved a goal. However, having studied him closely, over many games, at home and away, I have still to be convinced that he is good enough, even at this crappy level. In the first half, I looked up from my programme ( :D ) to watch a cross come over from our left wing. Hector Sam, making a rare and welcome visit to the opponents' goal-area, promptly ducked down behind two of the Chester gorillas, making himself unavailable for the cross. In the second half, North Staffs Saddler and I watched HS closely. When Foxy, or possibly Taylor, advanced forward, with the ball, no passing opportunities were on. Butler then broke wide to the left while Sam just STOOD STILL at the far right corner of their penalty-area, doing absolutely nothing! Movement, my a**e!!!
MMF and Phil - you make a very good point about Foxy inhibiting the play of Cooper. However, has it not occurred to you that he is only playing to his manager's instructions? In which case, we know who is responsible. Just a thought.............
WarsawPact wrote:redsaddler wrote:Were we the only two to see Harper's stamp on Bennett? Did anyone else see it? If so, what did you make of it?
I saw it, but I thought it was accidental as he lost his balance.
King Crimson wrote:WarsawPact wrote:redsaddler wrote:Were we the only two to see Harper's stamp on Bennett? Did anyone else see it? If so, what did you make of it?
I saw it, but I thought it was accidental as he lost his balance.
I saw it too. Their player certainly felt it, and gave Harper a mouthful in response. It looked like a stumble, but then again, that's how a pro gets sweet revenge isn't it?
Remember Fox's 'tackle' on someone a few weeks back? Can't remember the player or team (which makes the comparison less than helpful, I know) but having been badly fouled earlier in the game, Fox took his time (so retaliation isn't clear), picked his moment and...BAM!!!... you're in the stands!
I'm sure someone can tell me what I'm talking about. :oops:
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