Boston United (H) League Saturday 27/1/07

[jeffsmate]

oh dear 1-1

[hullsaddler]

How frustrating is that. Two points dropped.
Listening to commentary it sounds like Ishmel should have been given longer than 12 minutes.
It will be interesting to hear why people there think we hardly made Marriot make a save.

[Jolly Johnny]

How frustrating is that. Two points dropped.
Listening to commentary it sounds like Ishmel should have been given longer than 12 minutes.
It will be interesting to hear why people there think we hardly made Marriot make a save.

Also frustrating because all apart from McDongs beneath us won which means only a point to Swindon and others within 2 or 3 points now. BBC reporter during Score said that there was effort but no quality or inventiveness and no shots on targets either in the second half after about 30 minutes.
Struggling against lesser team again - just means the games against the likes of Lincoln, Hartlepool and Stockport are even more important now.

[Biggles]

Form is dropping of late, 1 point lead, mmmmm I fear we could fall into the play off zone if we don't improve. Macc away is very important but I just cannot see a win there. Haven't looked at the fixture for tuesday but we could lose top spot... :(

[Shad]

Listening to the match I thourght that as soon as Butler scored the gate would open and we could go on to beat a poor side, especially when playing away, 4 or 5-0, but after the goal I got the impression that despite scoring, and despite Mike Taylors repeated claims about how dodgy Bostons defence was, we didn't sound like scoring. Without being too pesimistic I'd like to point out that 1 point in 2 games is a million miles away from championship/promotion winning form.. especially with the "quality" of opposition we have played. I still think we will get promotion, but the championship will be more close run than it should have been. I look forward to reading what those at the match have to say.

[Neuromantic]

Well then, well then , well then.

I shall lay out why we dropped two points in the following metaphor. A computer. For a computer to function perfectly and to be entertaining and also useful, everything needs to work together in harmony. If one thing, stops working, you can have a small problem, but still can use it, if four things do not work or fail, you have a major problem. The result is that the computer is completely ineffective.

Issues and problems:

1. Anthony Gerrard - Absolutely shockingly bad today. One of the worst defensive performances I have seen in a long while, as soon as he come on, it all went to put. His positioning is dreadful. result: crash.

2. Keates on left - He tried his best bless him, but when you have a Digital camera that is trying to be a printer, you have a hardwar problem. Hasnt got a clue how to play on the left, No threat at all on that side.

3. Mark Wright - when you have an intel pentium latest model, that is fast, but you dont have any software, HARDware or any backbone. The result is shockingly bad and ineffective, I shall now be calling him (instead of Mark Wright) - Mollusc Wright - because he has no backbone. Bottled an immense number of thigns today. but one incident really summed it up, last mibute of the game, when you have time and your team NEEDS you to put a good cross in, and you canty even clear the lenalty area and screw the ball into the stands it says it all. Appaling. Result : system overflow.

4. Lack of Creative midfield option and Plan B - Pead can play that role, but if the defence cannot feed him the ball to use it, or if the two wings are as useles as they were today, we could have ronaldinho in midfield and he would not be able to do anything. What can be done ?

5. Needs to start Ishmel - If you have a new webcam and your old one isnt working, put the new model in and give it a go. Needs to start at macclesfield for me.

Thoughts ? Id be interested to see what people thought as well as me.

[Geordiesaddler]

Lets see what hapapens on Tuesday before we start pressing the panic button. Three points gives us a comfortable 8 point lead (effectively 9)over the fourth placed side, anything less and its getting a bit sweaty. Time for players to stand up and show their quality against another limited side. Three games without a win against Mansfield, Boston , and Macc would be worrying. All has not been well since the Coventry speculation it has to be said. This needs nipping in the bud with 2 wins this week before the more difficult fixtures roll along.

[Jolly Johnny]

Sounds like more of the same old problems again. :roll:

Surely DD must act and try and get 1 or 2 in this week now, or we could find ourselves slipping out of the automatics quite easily.

[kevwill]

January. Bloody awful month for our results over the years. Wish we weren't playing MT until Feb. Bugger!

[Jorge14]

Lets see what hapapens on Tuesday before we start pressing the panic button. Three points gives us a comfortable 8 point lead (effectively 9)over the fourth placed side, anything less and its getting a bit sweaty. Time for players to stand up and show their quality against another limited side. Three games without a win against Mansfield, Boston , and Macc would be worrying. All has not been well since the Coventry speculation it has to be said. This needs nipping in the bud with 2 wins this week before the more difficult fixtures roll along.

Agree entirely, Geordie. We need a good spell of 3 or 4 wins now, and more importantly, Dosh needs to come out categorically and say that he wouldn't consider the Coventry job if offered it.

[Kiansmom]

Well then, well then , well then.

I shall lay out why we dropped two points in the following metaphor. A computer. For a computer to function perfectly and to be entertaining and also useful, everything needs to work together in harmony. If one thing, stops working, you can have a small problem, but still can use it, if four things do not work or fail, you have a major problem. The result is that the computer is completely ineffective.

Issues and problems:

1. Anthony Gerrard - Absolutely shockingly bad today. One of the worst defensive performances I have seen in a long while, as soon as he come on, it all went to put. His positioning is dreadful. result: crash.

2. Keates on left - He tried his best bless him, but when you have a Digital camera that is trying to be a printer, you have a hardwar problem. Hasnt got a clue how to play on the left, No threat at all on that side.

3. Mark Wright - when you have an intel pentium latest model, that is fast, but you dont have any software, HARDware or any backbone. The result is shockingly bad and ineffective, I shall now be calling him (instead of Mark Wright) - Mollusc Wright - because he has no backbone. Bottled an immense number of thigns today. but one incident really summed it up, last mibute of the game, when you have time and your team NEEDS you to put a good cross in, and you canty even clear the lenalty area and screw the ball into the stands it says it all. Appaling. Result : system overflow.

4. Lack of Creative midfield option and Plan B - Pead can play that role, but if the defence cannot feed him the ball to use it, or if the two wings are as useles as they were today, we could have ronaldinho in midfield and he would not be able to do anything. What can be done ?

5. Needs to start Ishmel - If you have a new webcam and your old one isnt working, put the new model in and give it a go. Needs to start at macclesfield for me.

Thoughts ? Id be interested to see what people thought as well as me.

Please explain why Gerrard was shockingly bad, he was a VAST improvement on Roper

as for Ishy we would have ended up with 10 men there's no way he would have kept his temper with the awful ref we had today, Boston were really psychical and the ref should have stepped in a lot sooner than he did, I'm surprised there were no serious injuries today. The thing is how can you say the computer don't work when these are the same players that got us to the top of the league?

[Neuromantic]

Kiansmom, The computer didnt work TODAY, so therefore we send it to the technician to change it and fix it (DD).

I think your caught in the Anthony Gerrard is steven gerrards cousin crap. He was awful, shocking. It went downhill as soon as he came on. Sorry, but how you can even compare him in the same league as roper is beyond me.

[SaigonSaddler]

Disappointing!

2 points dropped against a very poor side. Why did we play the ball in the air so much? I think the system is at fault more than any of the players - too negative and too much long ball. I know the pitch is bad but........

Also listening to Money on WM, I know he's talking it up but the team should be beating Boston at home. We had enough time and there was hardly a avalanche of chances for us to get the 2nd goal. Screams out for a 'creative midfielder' really.

I fear the glory of being champions will elude us (Swindon) and we'll finish between 2nd and 4th.

[SheffieldSaddler]

Well I am devastated. This is lowest point of the season so far for me.
To not be able to be a team who had the worst defensive record in league, at home, having gone 1-0 up is abysmal to be honest.
I feel the cracks are beginning to appear in all honesty.
Lets not get into the old Walsall ways, lets go out and get a CREATIVE MIDFIELD player NOW! or 2 I feel!
You build and push forward when you are established, this is the time to show we mean business.
Get out there and do something before its too late.

[Jorge14]

Please explain why Gerrard was shockingly bad, he was a VAST improvement on Roper

Can't believe I've read a Walsall fan write that...Anthony Gerrard is the most over-rated player in our squad and Ian Roper is the most consistent player we've had this century, and I'd defend him to the hilt against anyone. It is just ridiculous to even compare Gerrard to him; if we are going to continue Daz's (tedious :wink: ) technological metaphors, Gerrard is the new DVD with a stratch on it which stutters with annoying regularity, whilst Ian Roper is the VHS which has been watched constantly for years, and is still just as reliable as ever.

I agree totally with Daz, I can't believe that there is anyone with rose-tinted blinkers on for Gerrard anymore.

[SaigonSaddler]

Please explain why Gerrard was shockingly bad, he was a VAST improvement on Roper

Can't believe I've read a Walsall fan write that...Anthony Gerrard is the most over-rated player in our squad and Ian Roper is the most consistent player we've had this century, and I'd defend him to the hilt against anyone. It is just ridiculous to even compare Gerrard to him; if we are going to continue Daz's (tedious :wink: ) technological metaphors, Gerrard is the new DVD with a stratch on it which stutters with annoying regularity, whilst Ian Roper is the VHS which has been watched constantly for years, and is still just as reliable as ever.

I agree totally with Daz, I can't believe that there is anyone with rose-tinted blinkers on for Gerrard anymore.

Agree Jorge, Gerrard appeared to be carrying a bit too much weight as well.

[Cheesebag]

Please explain why Gerrard was shockingly bad, he was a VAST improvement on Roper

:shock:

[Fray Bentos is God!]

Please explain why Gerrard was shockingly bad, he was a VAST improvement on Roper

:shock:

Double whoosh indeed, for once im baffled

[coxy_saddler]

Well then, well then , well then.

I shall lay out why we dropped two points in the following metaphor. A computer. For a computer to function perfectly and to be entertaining and also useful, everything needs to work together in harmony. If one thing, stops working, you can have a small problem, but still can use it, if four things do not work or fail, you have a major problem. The result is that the computer is completely ineffective.

Issues and problems:

1. Anthony Gerrard - Absolutely shockingly bad today. One of the worst defensive performances I have seen in a long while, as soon as he come on, it all went to put. His positioning is dreadful. result: crash.

2. Keates on left - He tried his best bless him, but when you have a Digital camera that is trying to be a printer, you have a hardwar problem. Hasnt got a clue how to play on the left, No threat at all on that side.

3. Mark Wright - when you have an intel pentium latest model, that is fast, but you dont have any software, HARDware or any backbone. The result is shockingly bad and ineffective, I shall now be calling him (instead of Mark Wright) - Mollusc Wright - because he has no backbone. Bottled an immense number of thigns today. but one incident really summed it up, last mibute of the game, when you have time and your team NEEDS you to put a good cross in, and you canty even clear the lenalty area and screw the ball into the stands it says it all. Appaling. Result : system overflow.

4. Lack of Creative midfield option and Plan B - Pead can play that role, but if the defence cannot feed him the ball to use it, or if the two wings are as useles as they were today, we could have ronaldinho in midfield and he would not be able to do anything. What can be done ?

5. Needs to start Ishmel - If you have a new webcam and your old one isnt working, put the new model in and give it a go. Needs to start at macclesfield for me.

Thoughts ? Id be interested to see what people thought as well as me.

Please explain why Gerrard was shockingly bad, he was a VAST improvement on Roper
as for Ishy we would have ended up with 10 men there's no way he would have kept his temper with the awful ref we had today, Boston were really psychical and the ref should have stepped in a lot sooner than he did, I'm surprised there were no serious injuries today. The thing is how can you say the computer don't work when these are the same players that got us to the top of the league?

Sorry linda but no chance is gerrard a vast improvement over roper! Roper's been playing superb this season even scoring! His been solid through out.

Anyway..Nicely taken goal from butler. Too much long for ball for me..when we did knock it around on the floor we played some nice stuff and it was working! We really do need to win tuesday to get a little gap going again between us and swindon.

UTS.

[tinned]

Got to join the queue asking how Gerrard is an improvement on Roper, Linda. Sorry. Gerrard is the most over-hyped player we've had for years. Devestated when Roper went off for Gerrard.

We've been found out people. Now we're playing teams for the second time we're suffering. We're one dimensional and predictable.

I'll probably get slated for this (but whenevr has that stopped me ?) but without a creative midfielder NOW we are doomed to the play-off's. There you go, it may not be popular to say it but if DD thinks this squad is good enough, and if he thinks this style of football will get us promoted then he is way, way wrong. Sort it now.

[SaigonSaddler]

Got to join the queue asking how Gerrard is an improvement on Roper, Linda. Sorry. Gerrard is the most over-hyped player we've had for years. Devestated when Roper went off for Gerrard.

We've been found out people. Now we're playing teams for the second time we're suffering. We're one dimensional and predictable.

I'll probably get slated for this (but whenevr has that stopped me ?) but without a creative midfielder NOW we are doomed to the play-off's. There you go, it may not be popular to say it but if DD thinks this squad is good enough, and if he thinks this style of football will get us promoted then he is way, way wrong. Sort it now.

No I agree Dave, a well spent 20,000 now will relieve a whole season or more playing in this rubbish division again.

[Kiansmom]

the last 2 games our defence has let us down, for the vast majority of this saeson they have been fantastic Roper espeically. It's not just me that thinks it's largely due to our defence that we are in the position we now.DD has also remarked on this.

Roper wasn't really with it at Mansfiield and a couple of times today he was caught out. I don't like Gerrard because of who is cousin is why should I? I like him because he never gives less than 100% effort.I sorry if my opinion doesn't suit you all, but that's what it is my opinion :lol:

[Barren Flak]

Well then, well then , well then.

I shall lay out why we dropped two points in the following metaphor. A computer. For a computer to function perfectly and to be entertaining and also useful, everything needs to work together in harmony. If one thing, stops working, you can have a small problem, but still can use it, if four things do not work or fail, you have a major problem. The result is that the computer is completely ineffective.

Issues and problems:

1. Anthony Gerrard - Absolutely shockingly bad today. One of the worst defensive performances I have seen in a long while, as soon as he come on, it all went to put. His positioning is dreadful. result: crash.

2. Keates on left - He tried his best bless him, but when you have a Digital camera that is trying to be a printer, you have a hardwar problem. Hasnt got a clue how to play on the left, No threat at all on that side.

3. Mark Wright - when you have an intel pentium latest model, that is fast, but you dont have any software, HARDware or any backbone. The result is shockingly bad and ineffective, I shall now be calling him (instead of Mark Wright) - Mollusc Wright - because he has no backbone. Bottled an immense number of thigns today. but one incident really summed it up, last mibute of the game, when you have time and your team NEEDS you to put a good cross in, and you canty even clear the lenalty area and screw the ball into the stands it says it all. Appaling. Result : system overflow.

4. Lack of Creative midfield option and Plan B - Pead can play that role, but if the defence cannot feed him the ball to use it, or if the two wings are as useles as they were today, we could have ronaldinho in midfield and he would not be able to do anything. What can be done ?

5. Needs to start Ishmel - If you have a new webcam and your old one isnt working, put the new model in and give it a go. Needs to start at macclesfield for me.

Thoughts ? Id be interested to see what people thought as well as me.

I agree with that, although AG didn't get on my nerves quite that much, was he at fault for the goal?

Game of two give away goals and not much else, would have given Ishy the second half for something different. I don't think changing a striker when neither was getting any real opportunity was a great idea.

How many corners and free kicks around the area did we have today, think we really missed Ropers presence for them.

P.S. I think Deano had a 'virus' today, just didn't look at the races.

[tinned]

the last 2 games our defence has let us down, for the vast majority of this saeson they have been fantastic Roper espeically. It's not just me that thinks it's largely due to our defence that we are in the position we now.DD has also remarked on this.

Roper wasn't really with it at Mansfiield and a couple of times today he was caught out. I don't like Gerrard because of who is cousin is why should I? I like him because he never gives less than 100% effort.I sorry if my opinion doesn't suit you all, but that's what it is my opinion :lol:

You stick with you're opinion Linda. I don't agree with it (well not most of it anyway) but you'rs is a valid as the rest of us.

In my opinion Gerrard isn't half the player Roper is and isn't half the player Dann will be.

The defence has been shoking recently but I stick to my opinion that it is the lack of a midfield that is costing us.

[The Buck]

There are four days left in January.
Four days to make a signing or signings that could make or break this season.
My money is on no signings.
I cannot believe that Richard money and the powers that be at Walsall Football Club cannot see what us, the paying supporters can plainly see.
We have a decent defence - easily good enough to see us out of this wretched division.
We have, in Martin Butler, the best striker in the Fourth Division. We have Hector Sam and/or Per Cederqvist, both of whom are perfectly good enough to score and create goals.
What we patently do not have is a competent midfield.
Dobson does a good job as a destroyer, he is a strong presence in the middle of the park.
That is about all that can be said positively about the midfield.
Pead, for all his efforts is a lightweight. Daniel Fox flatters to deceive. For all his fancy footwork (all left foot), he creates very little for the strikers other than pumping long balls into the channels for Butler/Sam/Cederqvist to run after.
Dean Keates, likewise for all his efforts is no wide man, although he does get through his fair share of defensive duties (when he manages to stay on his feet), which is more than can be said for the excuse for a professional footballer that is Mark Wright.
How Money can pick this man week after week is beyond me.
I have read with disbelief the comments on this message board defending him week after week. I am struggling to remember a worse player to wear a Walsall shirt, and that is not based on his non-performance today. It is based on years of watching what was once a promising youngster fail to develop. And the reason he has failed to develop is because he shirks responsibility, he avoids tackles, and generally lets the real men play the game around him.
He would never pull a Walsall shirt on again if I was picking the side.
If we don't get somebody on the pitch that can create chances for the strikers - and soon - then this season's promotion charge could very quickly collapse.
I'm absolutely livid tonight.

[nottssaddler]

Special mention to the cheating scum that is boston, and their diabolical fans that didnt make a peep for 90 minutes, then acted like they'd won the world cup on the final whistle - sad acts.

But man of the match goes to the ref, possible the most incompetent person to enter Bescot who's surname doesnt begin with 'M'

[hullsaddler]

Special mention to the cheating scum that is boston, and their diabolical fans that didnt make a peep for 90 minutes, then acted like they'd won the world cup on the final whistle - sad acts.

I was only listening to the commentary but I would have thought that they had every reason to be delighted at the final whistle....dreadful away record , near the bottom of the division & get a point at the league leaders. I am sure in a similar situation we would have been the same.

[Jorge14]

:shock:

[nottssaddler]

Yes but they offered no support for there team - were dreadful, then went crazy as if they were european champions - i found it sad to watch.

Plus I thought their celebrations were misplaced. If we were in there position, I would certainly not celebrate a perfomance like that, i would be sighing with relief. They had virtually no attack and there tactic was 'hoof it up the field'. If they celebrate this tactic... well, their position in the league says it all really

[latviancheese]

Yes but they offered no support for there team - were dreadful, then went crazy as if they were european champions - i found it sad to watch.

Plus I thought their celebrations were misplaced. If we were in there position, I would certainly not celebrate a perfomance like that, i would be sighing with relief. They had virtually no attack and there tactic was 'hoof it up the field'. If they celebrate this tactic... well, their position in the league says it all really

The only tactic most teams have in this division is hoof it up the pitch.