Walsall v Torquay...marks out of 100...?

[Fray Bentos is God!]

Good stuff Sid, nothing wrong with stating the facts. Lot of people fail to understand the concept of entertainment and our current results. I just love being top, no goals conceded at home and studying the league table on Saturday evening/Sunday morning. Perhaps the next match will be the one where we entertain for 90 minutes :roll: although I doubt it with our current midfielders whose attempts today were truly awful, try to look at it the way you might when you visit the dentist, it might be painful at times but the end result is worth it.

I agree with you (wow, didnt think id say that to you) the midfield today was a problem, but as I said to Dave today, we need a creative midfielder like a nun needs a night out

[stealth_vision]

game out of 100 is surely 100 we won kept home record clean sheets up and top of the league

my daughter fell asleep after ten mins but hey what do girls know bout football with exception to kians mom

and to finish it of with a nice pint of stella in the hotel

dicky dosh for walsall town mayor sure to get the scum out

Good call - anyway - your daughter falls asleep most games doesn't she :lol:

and when she stays awake we loose so looks like i need 2 buy some more sleepin pills to keep the good luck up

[sid swifty]

Good stuff Sid, nothing wrong with stating the facts. Lot of people fail to understand the concept of entertainment and our current results. I just love being top, no goals conceded at home and studying the league table on Saturday evening/Sunday morning. Perhaps the next match will be the one where we entertain for 90 minutes :roll: although I doubt it with our current midfielders whose attempts today were truly awful, try to look at it the way you might when you visit the dentist, it might be painful at times but the end result is worth it.

just as well cully..because we were warned by those newcastle fans (Australian newcastle that is) that he is a long ball merchant...so he will be playing the same way whatever situation or league we're in...i just hope he finds a midfielder who can get the team playing through the team instead of kicking the cack out of the ball from start to finish...i think Roper did more passing than any of the midfielers did...at least Wrack sort of forced them to play a bit with his experience and ability when he moved inside and specially when he played up front.

[Kiansmom]

game out of 100 is surely 100 we won kept home record clean sheets up and top of the league

my daughter fell asleep after ten mins but hey what do girls know bout football with exception to kians mom

and to finish it of with a nice pint of stella in the hotel

dicky dosh for walsall town mayor sure to get the scum out

you saved yourself there!!

It wasn't a great performance, but as everyone else says we took 3 points and have regained our rightful place at the
TOP OF THE LEAGUE!!!!!!

[boringteacher]

fudge me rigid - having just got back from "family fun" at Bonfire night I get to read this shite! We weren't a joy to watch (and I was a bit disappointed not to put away a crap team more comfortably) but get it in perspective. Did our opponents have a shot on target? Should we not have scored 3 or 4 goals in the 2nd half? Once Westwood was subbed (and I admit to being wrong that he should have been 1st choice over Dann) at no stage did we look like conceeding a goal! Have we not now got a team and squad capable of operating at midtable level in the division above?

ffs if you cant enjoy this season, why bother coming at all? Go and watch the dingles and whine away in company!

[Neuromantic]

I thought they came for a point, as mourinho says, they parked the team bus in front of the goal. Sometimes you have to patient to break teams down that do things like that to you, and we did that very well.

I thought Fox was my MOTM today, thought he was brilliant. Roper was and Dann were excellent as well. Midfield. Well again Keates was nowhere to be seen again today im afraid, Look at the amount of possesion dobbo compared to Keates. Yeah Dobbo was brilliant, but if you have no support in midfield, your going to make mistakes or rush things, and thats what it seemed like today, Wright for me was poor for the second game running, hmm poor might be too harsh, but he just didnt do anything, and several times he bottled it again. Wrack, well i thought first half he was poor, but i thought played better when he went up front, certainly was more of a threat than sam who was dire today.

Just a mention to Ince today again, he was awesome, such a tower of strength.

Stop moaning.

UTS!

[sid swifty]

fudge me rigid - having just got back from "family fun" at Bonfire night I get to read this shite! We weren't a joy to watch (and I was a bit disappointed not to put away a crap team more comfortably) but get it in perspective. Did our opponents have a shot on target? Should we not have scored 3 or 4 goals in the 2nd half? Once Westwood was subbed (and I admit to being wrong that he should have been 1st choice over Dann) at no stage did we look like conceeding a goal! Have we not now got a team and squad capable of operating at midtable level in the division above?

ffs if you cant enjoy this season, why bother coming at all? Go and watch the dingles and whine away in company!

of course we didn't look like letting a goal in dumbo...we had ten men behind the ball all through the match...thats my point...we were bloody boring..NOT WORTH £18 TO GET IN No wonder our kids aren't getting a decent education with dim teachers like you teaching them.

[Neuromantic]

fudge me rigid - having just got back from "family fun" at Bonfire night I get to read this shite! We weren't a joy to watch (and I was a bit disappointed not to put away a crap team more comfortably) but get it in perspective. Did our opponents have a shot on target? Should we not have scored 3 or 4 goals in the 2nd half? Once Westwood was subbed (and I admit to being wrong that he should have been 1st choice over Dann) at no stage did we look like conceeding a goal! Have we not now got a team and squad capable of operating at midtable level in the division above?

ffs if you cant enjoy this season, why bother coming at all? Go and watch the dingles and whine away in company!

of course we didn't look like letting a goal in dumbo...we had ten men behind the ball all through the match...thats my point...we were bloody boring..NOT WORTH £18 TO GET IN No wonder our kids aren't getting a decent education with dim teachers like you teaching them.

woah, woah woah Sid, WE had ten men behind the ball ??????

[sid swifty]

I thought they came for a point, as mourinho says, they parked the team bus in front of the goal. Sometimes you have to patient to break teams down that do things like that to you, and we did that very well.

I thought Fox was my MOTM today, thought he was brilliant. Roper was and Dann were excellent as well. Midfield. Well again Keates was nowhere to be seen again today im afraid, Look at the amount of possesion dobbo compared to Keates. Yeah Dobbo was brilliant, but if you have no support in midfield, your going to make mistakes or rush things, and thats what it seemed like today, Wright for me was poor for the second game running, hmm poor might be too harsh, but he just didnt do anything, and several times he bottled it again. Wrack, well i thought first half he was poor, but i thought played better when he went up front, certainly was more of a threat than sam who was dire today.

Just a mention to Ince today again, he was awesome, such a tower of strength.

Stop moaning.

UTS!

they parked the team bus in front of thre goal...?????...we were the home team and we played with 10 men behind the ball.

[Stu]

I thought they came for a point, as mourinho says, they parked the team bus in front of the goal. Sometimes you have to patient to break teams down that do things like that to you, and we did that very well.

I thought Fox was my MOTM today, thought he was brilliant. Roper was and Dann were excellent as well. Midfield. Well again Keates was nowhere to be seen again today im afraid, Look at the amount of possesion dobbo compared to Keates. Yeah Dobbo was brilliant, but if you have no support in midfield, your going to make mistakes or rush things, and thats what it seemed like today, Wright for me was poor for the second game running, hmm poor might be too harsh, but he just didnt do anything, and several times he bottled it again. Wrack, well i thought first half he was poor, but i thought played better when he went up front, certainly was more of a threat than sam who was dire today.

Just a mention to Ince today again, he was awesome, such a tower of strength.

Stop moaning.

UTS!

they parked the team bus in front of thre goal...?????...we were the home team and we played with 10 men behind the ball.

Agreed there Sid, but you say it as though today was the only time we did it...

We've done that in every home match this season that I've seen, and the only home match I missed was Peterboro ironically. That's how we play, we play to keep it tight, both home and away.

The more I see us, the more I see the similarity with Colin Lee's tactics. We're playing how Lee wanted us to play when he was in charge, but Lee tried to do it at a higher level where we didn't have the resource to compete.

[Tony Hayers]

Perhaps we should introduce a new pricing system, as they do on Hell's Kitchen, whereby you only pay if you are entertained!

But by buying a ticket, that is allowing you entry to watch a football match and that is exactly what you got for your 18 quid. Nowhere in the terms and conditions of buying a ticket does it state that by purchasing one you will be entertained. It would be like going to the cinema to watch a film, buying your ticket, watching the film and then asking for your money back because you didn't enjoy it. No-one said you would when you bought the ticket, so why kick up a fuss when something that was never promised has not been delivered?!

If you want entertainment, just purchase 'I'm Alan Partridge'! :lol:

[RED 5]

1-0 ,Clean sheet and we are back at the top! :D

[sid swifty]

I thought they came for a point, as mourinho says, they parked the team bus in front of the goal. Sometimes you have to patient to break teams down that do things like that to you, and we did that very well.

I thought Fox was my MOTM today, thought he was brilliant. Roper was and Dann were excellent as well. Midfield. Well again Keates was nowhere to be seen again today im afraid, Look at the amount of possesion dobbo compared to Keates. Yeah Dobbo was brilliant, but if you have no support in midfield, your going to make mistakes or rush things, and thats what it seemed like today, Wright for me was poor for the second game running, hmm poor might be too harsh, but he just didnt do anything, and several times he bottled it again. Wrack, well i thought first half he was poor, but i thought played better when he went up front, certainly was more of a threat than sam who was dire today.

Just a mention to Ince today again, he was awesome, such a tower of strength.

Stop moaning.

UTS!

they parked the team bus in front of thre goal...?????...we were the home team and we played with 10 men behind the ball.

Agreed there Sid, but you say it as though today was the only time we did it...

We've done that in every home match this season that I've seen, and the only home match I missed was Peterboro ironically. That's how we play, we play to keep it tight, both home and away.

The more I see us, the more I see the similarity with Colin Lee's tactics. We're playing how Lee wanted us to play when he was in charge, but Lee tried to do it at a higher level where we didn't have the resource to compete.

i know they have been playing like that all season stu...but i naturally assumed that they would start playing with a bit more flair once they realised that the opposition in this league are poor...i just wish we would hurry up and let a goal in at home and maybe once the record has gone they will play with a bit more freedom and a bit less fear...because as we have all seen there is nothing to fear in this league.

[dler]

Sid, I totally agree with you. We are poor in a very poor division. Entertainment value is nil. And at £18 a pop, they are taking the pish. The majority of posters here seem to think it's OK to be rubbish as long as we are slightly less rubbish than the opposition, and get three points. Why do they see entertainment and success as mutually exclusive? No doubt some bozo will come on saying that this is the fourth division and you can't expect to play like Real Madrid/Brazil/ etc - duh! When has anyone seen Walsall play like Real Madrid/Brazil/etc, regardless of the division. In 45 years, I haven't, but many have been more entertaining than this lot.

We are top of a crap division. We are boring. I will enjoy our promotion, if it comes, but I don't enjoy watching rubbish - regardless of the result.

[cyclothymic]

You want to watch a beautiful, free flowing game of football then go see a friendly!

First half we were rubbish - lucky not to be 2 down. Second half we were the better side and Roper got the goal he deserved! When Dann came on he was amazing - he is going to go further than Matty F!

If we are going to get out of League 2 at the first attempt we need 3 points in matches - today we got 3 points. Well done to the Saddlers - and Ian Roper: when you were a young lad just getting into the first team there were many who doubted you - Thank You for proving us all wrong. You are solid!

[Stu]

Sid, this is Money's style of play... Solid, very well organised, disciplined and hard-working. He aims to get results, however he must do it.

Dont expect to see any change at all, this is what we're getting.

Personally, I'm more than happy with it as its what we've been missing and its a million times better than the last 3 seasons.

[Cannock]

Blimey, i agree with Cyclo.

[Manchester Saddler]

Fecking hell - some people are never happy!

I tell you what - it costs a similar price to see ANY match in this division and there are 23 teams in this division WORSE than Walsall.

Would you like to see an OPEN game that Walsall LOSE 5-3 (Oldham under Merson)? I mean COME ON! 5-3 is entertaining isn't it? Eh?

Get real! If we win 1-0 and because of that win get three points that get us out of this bloody division then I DON'T CARE whether we are palying fast flowing entertaining football. To be honest - you won't GET fast flowing entertaining football in this division cos it's a CRAP division. Loads of teams are going to come to Bescot and stifle the game whether or not Dicky Dosh wants to play entertaining football or not. I imagine that Helen Chamberlain's Torquay would be such a team.

I'd rather be solid and not lose than play entertaining football and lose by the odd goal in 9. Have a pop at me if you want but Walsall winning makes my weekend!!!

[Neuromantic]

Fecking hell - some people are never happy!

I tell you what - it costs a similar price to see ANY match in this division and there are 23 teams in this division WORSE than Walsall.

Would you like to see an OPEN game that Walsall LOSE 5-3 (Oldham under Merson)? I mean COME ON! 5-3 is entertaining isn't it? Eh?

Get real! If we win 1-0 and because of that win get three points that get us out of this bloody division then I DON'T CARE whether we are palying fast flowing entertaining football. To be honest - you won't GET fast flowing entertaining football in this division cos it's a CRAP division. Loads of teams are going to come to Bescot and stifle the game whether or not Dicky Dosh wants to play entertaining football or not. I imagine that Helen Chamberlain's Torquay would be such a team.

I'd rather be solid and not lose than play entertaining football and lose by the odd goal in 9. Have a pop at me if you want but Walsall winning makes my weekend!!!

Totally agree mate.

[Exile]

This is the fourth division and you can't expect to play like Real Madrid/Brazil/ etc - duh!

[Bristol Fan]

Without bringing in any defensive players (I know, I know - the goalkeeper is an exception) Money has instantly turned the team that conceded more than any other in the entire football league, into the team that has conceded the least. That is why we're where we are, that's why we're going to be promoted, and that's why some people aren't being entertained. It's what the division's all about. We could try to play pretty football like a couple of teams do, but we wouldn't be promoted, and neither will they. We're hard to beat and rarely concede, we're liable to score in virtually every game, hence we're top of the table and more than likely to stay there. It's the same as our promotions under Nicholl and Graydon - don't remember much pretty football then either, but I do remember the happiest days of my Walsall-supporting life.

[mahabharatsaddler]

TENNIS

[We-ARE-Walsall]

1-0 wins like that are what promotions are made of, ask Sir Ray, We won, and everyone around us faltered

Look at the League table, and see the gap between us and 4th place.

Lets just get the hell out of here :D

[PT]

I've got no problem with the half-time booers yesterday and I felt that Paul Franks sank to a new depth when he suggested those people should "sod off". That seems to be the consensus amongst some on here as well. The booing came at half-time - not during play. Do you think DD and the coaching staff gave them a standing ovation at half-time yesterday? Judging how they came out second half I'd say they'd had a rollicking. If the management can make their feelings known, why can't the paying punters, who then to their credit reverted to supporting the team once the action began again?
I know we're top, haven't conceded a goal etc but I think people have a right to judge the team on their performance that day. The team have received the ovations for past performances so this game has to be judged by itself. If the logic of the reverse were true we wouldn't have celebrated Claridges goal at Gillingham last year and would have booed the team off despite the 1-0 away win. We didn't do that because we were there for THAT game on that day and judged the team accordingly. Yesterday, at half time, a minority did exactly the same and I'd say were welcome at the Bescot any time.

[sid swifty]

I do understand what a lot of you are saying...and i understand why you are saying it...because you would feel disloyal if you said what i have said...but i wonder what you would say if you went to the theatre and saw a crappy play...or went to a theme park and really hated it...or went out for a meal and didn't enjoy it at all...yes i know they are not football matches but they do bring the same thing up...VALUE FOR MONEY...now i haven't said i will stop going to watch them as i did last season even though it brought me a lot of abuse from people on this site...but i wouldn't rule it out if week after week we are treated to this defensive...uninspiring garbage...and i think a lot on this site will follow my lead when you suddenly realise that next season will be a hell of a lot better standard than the rubbish teams we play against in this division...so i think next season we may see (if its possible) an even more defensive team... :? ....up the saddlers.. :D

[Exile]

Is this thread still going? I'm off to bed and I'll wait till tomorrow to see what it looks like.

[sid swifty]

Is this thread still going? I'm off to bed and I'll wait till tomorrow to see what it looks like.

goodnight Exile... :D

[Duke]

I can fully understand Sid's view , but we are top of the league with the best home record in the country , teams wil come to Bescot and shut up shop and make it difficult for us to break them down .
Given the choice of this and playing open attacking entertaining football sitting comfortable in mid table i know which i would prefer .

And the end of the day promotion is what matters , get out of this bloody league then worry about life in league 1 .

[sid swifty]

I can fully understand Sid's view , but we are top of the league with the best home record in the country , teams wil come to Bescot and shut up shop and make it difficult for us to break them down .
Given the choice of this and playing open attacking entertaining football sitting comfortable in mid table i know which i would prefer .

And the end of the day promotion is what matters , get out of this bloody league then worry about life in league 1 .

I cant see that happening Dave...if the away side shut up shop as well we would have a really boring game wouldn't we?...oh we did didn't we... :? but at least we know he will start playing more open football against the better teams next season dont we...?DO WE... :?:

[merse-iah's disciple]

When at the game i shout/moan/cheer along with the rest of you, and to be honest, i wasn't that impressed yesterday - i had a feeling of frustration - all of us can see that this team can play much better than they did.

BUT when i get home and look at the league table we are sitting pretty at the top of it, and at the moment this is the one overriding stat that we should all be concerned about.

WE HAVE TO GET OUT OF THIS LEAGUE, and it shouldn't matter how - of course in an ideal world we would win 3 or 4-0 but right now i will settle for promotion ahead of entertainment.