Macclesfield Town (H) League - Saturday 16/09/06

[sid swifty]

just got back from the match and i must admit....



















mark wright played very well...the team were average...but you cant ask more than getting 3 points and yet another clean sheet...7/10

[PerStener]

Is Dann the new super-sub :D

Shearer Shearer Shearer :D

Noit a bad performance by the lads. Maccesfield had there chances!! Still it's another clean sheet. Great home record. Glad sam got he's goal and took it very well!!
Can't belive dann done it again! What a super sub we have :lol:

Also swindon lost to posh which is a great result!

Up The Saddlers!

Quite stunning stats for Dann this season

3 games as a sub. Not come onto the field earlier then the 83rd minute in any of them and still scored 2 goals :D
I believe he haven't even played 15 minutes of total time yet :D

[Jorge14]

mark wright played very well...the team were average...but you cant ask more than getting 3 points and yet another clean sheet...7/10

Agree with Sid...we were distinctly average - but unlike the last 3 years, we are capable of playing average and walking away with 3 points.
Mark Wright, for my money, was the best player on the pitch apart from Weir-Daley the Macclesfield striker. Deservedly got the sponsors man of the match award.

Ince made a string of cracking saves, and Sam took his goal very well after some good work by Wright.

3rd in the league...no goal conceded at home. Its all positive.

[Neuromantic]

A goog solid performance, were like a well oiled machine, or becoming that infact. Just did enough to win. IM well pleased Hector has got off the mark and that might inspire confidence for him now, his finish was top notch.

That bloke in our dug out is an absolute genius, his substitutions change the game. Dann was really good when he came on. Picken also, a breath of fresh air having a centre half whos comfortable on the ball. Mark Wright was brilliant first half, btu i thought daded second half, dobson and keates did their duties well, butler held the line well, fox and KT looked solid also.

All in all, an average performance and a win, cant ask for more.

[coxy_saddler]

mark wright played very well...the team were average...but you cant ask more than getting 3 points and yet another clean sheet...7/10

Agree with Sid...we were distinctly average - but unlike the last 3 years, we are capable of playing average and walking away with 3 points.
Mark Wright, for my money, was the best player on the pitch apart from Weir-Daley the Macclesfield striker. Deservedly got the sponsors man of the match award.

Ince made a string of cracking saves, and Sam took his goal very well after some good work by Wright.

3rd in the league...no goal conceded at home. Its all positive.

Agree there, Ince done some superb saves. He's playing better as each game goes on. Dann's record is very good per, Fairplay to the lad :D

[Mozza_saddler]

well done to the lads got the goal and held on to the lead, sat a bit too deep at times, but the silkermen never really put a decent attack together, mainly the long balls.

well done to scott dann aswell, the lad has got a bright future ahead of him!

scott dann is a striker, scott dann is a striker na na na na, na na na na

[stealth_vision]

i reckon though if this team could of shot properly we would of struggled properly
also westwood as impressed me once again
the only person who never played to his ability was swifty at the start :lol:
and why is it when wrighty made one mistake one fan shouted wrighty u are s##t
we need to get behind our players not against them

[stealth_vision]

i also reckon these were the best team we have entertained at bescot this season so far

[matty_walsall4eva]

glad sam scored 1st 2day not only did it take some weight off his shoulders but it also won me £5 :lol: , shame we couldnt score a 3rd as i wouldhave won an extra £9

[Whitti Steve]

Agree with most of comments already said. We were average today and gave the ball away too much - but always looked the winners despite Macc having more chance probably. I'm not Mark Wrights biggest fan - but he had a great game IMO. He seems to divide attention as my Sister in Law thought he was poor - as did the chap that a certain board member had a blazing row with (you know who you are angry man!!!). I thought we used the width well today for the most part. Pead looked pretty poor at times and things settled down when he was subbed. Westwwod and Ropes di well, love Picken and think he will be the start buy (after Butler of course), if he stays fit.

I was well impressed with Sam again today, still too theatrical when tackled, I suspect he would get more fouls if he didn't put so much effort into falling! - glad he got his goal (very well taken). Butler is a class act (I never thought I would utter those words), and if were honest is playing at least one division below himself - but hopefully wont be next season when we get promoted.

5 games at home, 5 wins, none conceded. can anyone be unhappy with that?

[WFC_Rob]

That bloke in our dug out is an absolute genius, his substitutions change the game. Dann was really good when he came on. Picken also, a breath of fresh air having a centre half whos comfortable on the ball. Mark Wright was brilliant first half, btu i thought daded second half, dobson and keates did their duties well, butler held the line well, fox and KT looked solid also.

I assume you mean Mark Wright jaded - I agree. He was a real threat in he first half, but got pegged back in the second and he really isn't comfortable in that position. Fox again played well apart from a 20 minute period in the second half when he seemed to be trying to play at left back as well as Taylor.
My man of the match today was Westwood, who I also think should have got man of the match on Tuesday. He won so much in the air in the first half and his distribution was a lot better than it had been earlier in the season.

I was chuffed to bits that Sam scored today, and what a well-taken goal it was. I don't know if he's still struggling for a bit of fitness, but he was a shadow of himself in the second half. In the first half I thought he was excellent and was the most effective I've seen him so far.

Whilst we obviously weren't at our best today, it was another one of those games where I never really felt like we were going to get anything less than 3 points. We had our moments, but Dicky Dosh saw the potential danger and acted with his substitutions.
Scott Dann must have one of the best minutes-goals ratios in football at the moment - what is it, 2 goals in 8 minutes of football?

[coxy_saddler]

Also gotta mention, Im glad picken is back, Quality player, Clm on the ball was close to having a goal he's self on that corner, where the keeper just got to the ball before him!

I bet dann was fantastic at 60 seconds over the park as a lad.. :lol:

[Rhino Saddler]

mark wright played very well...the team were average...but you cant ask more than getting 3 points and yet another clean sheet...7/10

Agree with Sid...we were distinctly average - but unlike the last 3 years, we are capable of playing average and walking away with 3 points.
Mark Wright, for my money, was the best player on the pitch apart from Weir-Daley the Macclesfield striker. Deservedly got the sponsors man of the match award.

Ince made a string of cracking saves, and Sam took his goal very well after some good work by Wright.

3rd in the league...no goal conceded at home. Its all positive.

I agree.

DD has clearly worked out what to do to get Wright to play and he did just that today.

Average performance, 3 points. Always going to feel a bit flat after midweek.

[Jolly Johnny]

2-0 to the supers, butler and wright.

4550 in attendance, although I reckon only about 175 away fans.

How many did Posh bring the other night?

Well done boys, another good 3 points and a couple of results went our way as well.

If only i'd had a little flutter on the score, although the odds for 2-0 would not have been that good.
Only 107 out on the attendance too, must be a lucky day.

How many away fans were there peeps - about what I thought?

Roll on Bolton! :wink:

[Fray Bentos is God!]

120 tops i'd say.

[Stalky]

Great to have another clean sheet and three points. However, let's not get too excited! I think that we were lucky that Macclesfield didn't know how to shoot - that's surely why they are bottom of the league - because they dominated for much of the game.

In my opinion Hector Sam deserved Man of the Match, not only for his well-taken goal, but also for his impressive control and use of the ball. That said, I couldn't argue too much with Wrighty getting it - yet another good game. He's never been my favourite player, but he has certainly been turning in superb performances recently.

Once again plenty of effort from Deano (that goes without saying) but we were outplayed in midfield where Dobson had probably his worst game yet for the club.

Pickin looked good when he came on, but Roper had his hands full all afternoon with the awkward Matt McNeil. I don't think that I have ever seen him beaten in the air so many times.

It seems crazy to say it with five home clean sheets, but, for me, the jury is still out on Clayton Ince. He frequently fails to hold on to long shots and about once a match he misjudges a cross. Having said that, he made a number of good saves. That shows just how big a threat Macclesfield were.

As I said, I'll gladly settle for the three points - play poorly and still win is a good habit. Better still is play well and win - like Tuesday.

[philthesaddler]

I think people need to watch a few videos of a proper right winger because this over-rating of Mark Wright is spiralling out of control!

On the Ball
Running past people
On the ball mark is very nervous. He has pace, but doesn't use it, he never ever knocks it past his man, he nearly always turns inside his man and then tries to cross, which in turns creates an easier-to-defend situation for the defenders. His crossing is tediously average and terribly inconsistent. He's capable of placing the ball on someones head, but rarely looks up - most of his crosses today were catching practice for the keeper.

Passing
Marks passing has improved over the past couple of seasons, but he still has a poor passing range

First Touch
He's got an awful first touch - see today when he let the ball just slide past him - thats terrible, its basic football. He gave the ball away several times in todays game because his touch let him down.

Off the Ball
Making Runs
Rarely makes a burst forward, mostly because he's asleep most of the time.

Making Tackles
Non existant, he wimps out of any physical contact.

General awareness
He's comotosed if he isn't on the ball, so many times today, their left back had gone walk about, Wright, instead of giving Keates or Dobson an option by bursting down the right wing, just stands square of the ball and to the right.

All in all, he's average at best - but to give him the Man of the Match because of the hyperbole that is surrounding him at the moment is quite ridiculous - why people can't see how poor a footballer he is - is completely beyond me, but I suspect it has something to do with us not having had a decent winger for a long long time, thus making Wright look decent. Don't people remember Matias, Ainsworth, Peron? They were proper wingers, they knew how to beat their man, they knew that crosses coming in behind a defender were much harder to defend than crosses coming in infront of defenders, they knew how to find space, they tackled hard - Mark Wright just can't do any of these things.

I think people see Mark Wright as a good player because he is, essentially our only outlet from midfield - almost all of our attacking play comes through passing the ball to him and letting him do his thing - that doesn't mean 'his thing' is any good. But because all our attacking play comes through him he seems to get a lot of plaudits. The reason the attacking play goes through him is because 95% of the time Dobson and Keates are sitting very deep, and having Fox on the left is like having two left backs playing - so you see what I mean, Wright sees the ball a lot, but it doesn't mean he's the best thing since sliced bread.

I just can't stand to see a player pussy out of 99% of challenges like him, get one half decent cross in per game, never beat his man, and lay off one pass when 3-on-2 ... and get man of the match!! Get a half decent right winger playing for us, and you'll really see why I'm right.

Don't get me wrong, he's had one of his better games today, but technically, tactically, mentally and physically he's no better than a standard conference player - just because we haven't had a decent winger for ages don't over estimate Wright.

I'll give him credit for laying the ball off the Sam today - but I could have done that, so why does that make him Man of the Match.

I'm sorry, but a player that pussys out of challenges doesn't deserve to be a footballer, add to that his poorness all round, then compare to a proper winger...and you'll see Wright in a different light. Just please see Wright for what he is.

If you didnt know Car's existed, and some one presented you with a 1979 Yugo, you'd probably think "Wow, this is a great thing", its the same with Wright, it's been years since we've had a winger of any description, so we all think Wright is the dogs balls. It's a similar situation with strikers, for years, we hadn't had a decent striker, we'd had to make do with dross, then Martin Butler comes along, and shows us what a proper striker is - soon a winger will come along and show us what a proper winger is.

Mark Wright has got ability, he's got pace and skill and can cross a ball - just like Ish - the difference is, Ish knows that a wingers job is to beat his man, get to the byline and swing one in, and as a result, Ish will cause a defence more trouble in 10 mins that Wright will in an entire 90!

Anyway...

Decent match, still not playing that well, doing a little too much long ball stuff for my liking, I'm losing faith in Keatesy, I'd much rather see Kinsella - he may be much older, but his classyness shines through.[/u]

[coxy_saddler]

I think people need to watch a few videos of a proper right winger because this over-rating of Mark Wright is spiralling out of control!

On the Ball
Running past people
On the ball mark is very nervous. He has pace, but doesn't use it, he never ever knocks it past his man, he nearly always turns inside his man and then tries to cross, which in turns creates an easier-to-defend situation for the defenders. His crossing is tediously average and terribly inconsistent. He's capable of placing the ball on someones head, but rarely looks up - most of his crosses today were catching practice for the keeper.

Passing
Marks passing has improved over the past couple of seasons, but he still has a poor passing range

First Touch
Bloody hell, Not the 'strachen view' The ' phil view' analysin centre :lol:
He's got an awful first touch - see today when he let the ball just slide past him - thats terrible, its basic football. He gave the ball away several times in todays game because his touch let him down.

Off the Ball
Making Runs
Rarely makes a burst forward, mostly because he's asleep most of the time.

Making Tackles
Non existant, he wimps out of any physical contact.

General awareness
He's comotosed if he isn't on the ball, so many times today, their left back had gone walk about, Wright, instead of giving Keates or Dobson an option by bursting down the right wing, just stands square of the ball and to the right.

All in all, he's average at best - but to give him the Man of the Match because of the hyperbole that is surrounding him at the moment is quite ridiculous - why people can't see how poor a footballer he is - is completely beyond me, but I suspect it has something to do with us not having had a decent winger for a long long time, thus making Wright look decent. Don't people remember Matias, Ainsworth, Peron? They were proper wingers, they knew how to beat their man, they knew that crosses coming in behind a defender were much harder to defend than crosses coming in infront of defenders, they knew how to find space, they tackled hard - Mark Wright just can't do any of these things.

I think people see Mark Wright as a good player because he is, essentially our only outlet from midfield - almost all of our attacking play comes through passing the ball to him and letting him do his thing - that doesn't mean 'his thing' is any good. But because all our attacking play comes through him he seems to get a lot of plaudits. The reason the attacking play goes through him is because 95% of the time Dobson and Keates are sitting very deep, and having Fox on the left is like having two left backs playing - so you see what I mean, Wright sees the ball a lot, but it doesn't mean he's the best thing since sliced bread.

I just can't stand to see a player pussy out of 99% of challenges like him, get one half decent cross in per game, never beat his man, and lay off one pass when 3-on-2 ... and get man of the match!! Get a half decent right winger playing for us, and you'll really see why I'm right.

Don't get me wrong, he's had one of his better games today, but technically, tactically, mentally and physically he's no better than a standard conference player - just because we haven't had a decent winger for ages don't over estimate Wright.

I'll give him credit for laying the ball off the Sam today - but I could have done that, so why does that make him Man of the Match.

I'm sorry, but a player that pussys out of challenges doesn't deserve to be a footballer, add to that his poorness all round, then compare to a proper winger...and you'll see Wright in a different light. Just please see Wright for what he is.

If you didnt know Car's existed, and some one presented you with a 1979 Yugo, you'd probably think "Wow, this is a great thing", its the same with Wright, it's been years since we've had a winger of any description, so we all think Wright is the dogs balls. It's a similar situation with strikers, for years, we hadn't had a decent striker, we'd had to make do with dross, then Martin Butler comes along, and shows us what a proper striker is - soon a winger will come along and show us what a proper winger is.

Mark Wright has got ability, he's got pace and skill and can cross a ball - just like Ish - the difference is, Ish knows that a wingers job is to beat his man, get to the byline and swing one in, and as a result, Ish will cause a defence more trouble in 10 mins that Wright will in an entire 90!

Anyway...

Decent match, still not playing that well, doing a little too much long ball stuff for my liking, I'm losing faith in Keatesy, I'd much rather see Kinsella - he may be much older, but his classyness shines through.[/u]

[philthesaddler]

I think people need to watch a few videos of a proper right winger because this over-rating of Mark Wright is spiralling out of control!

On the Ball
Running past people
On the ball mark is very nervous. He has pace, but doesn't use it, he never ever knocks it past his man, he nearly always turns inside his man and then tries to cross, which in turns creates an easier-to-defend situation for the defenders. His crossing is tediously average and terribly inconsistent. He's capable of placing the ball on someones head, but rarely looks up - most of his crosses today were catching practice for the keeper.

Passing
Marks passing has improved over the past couple of seasons, but he still has a poor passing range

First Touch
Bloody hell, Not the 'strachen view' The ' phil view' analysin centre :lol:
He's got an awful first touch - see today when he let the ball just slide past him - thats terrible, its basic football. He gave the ball away several times in todays game because his touch let him down.

Off the Ball
Making Runs
Rarely makes a burst forward, mostly because he's asleep most of the time.

Making Tackles
Non existant, he wimps out of any physical contact.

General awareness
He's comotosed if he isn't on the ball, so many times today, their left back had gone walk about, Wright, instead of giving Keates or Dobson an option by bursting down the right wing, just stands square of the ball and to the right.

All in all, he's average at best - but to give him the Man of the Match because of the hyperbole that is surrounding him at the moment is quite ridiculous - why people can't see how poor a footballer he is - is completely beyond me, but I suspect it has something to do with us not having had a decent winger for a long long time, thus making Wright look decent. Don't people remember Matias, Ainsworth, Peron? They were proper wingers, they knew how to beat their man, they knew that crosses coming in behind a defender were much harder to defend than crosses coming in infront of defenders, they knew how to find space, they tackled hard - Mark Wright just can't do any of these things.

I think people see Mark Wright as a good player because he is, essentially our only outlet from midfield - almost all of our attacking play comes through passing the ball to him and letting him do his thing - that doesn't mean 'his thing' is any good. But because all our attacking play comes through him he seems to get a lot of plaudits. The reason the attacking play goes through him is because 95% of the time Dobson and Keates are sitting very deep, and having Fox on the left is like having two left backs playing - so you see what I mean, Wright sees the ball a lot, but it doesn't mean he's the best thing since sliced bread.

I just can't stand to see a player pussy out of 99% of challenges like him, get one half decent cross in per game, never beat his man, and lay off one pass when 3-on-2 ... and get man of the match!! Get a half decent right winger playing for us, and you'll really see why I'm right.

Don't get me wrong, he's had one of his better games today, but technically, tactically, mentally and physically he's no better than a standard conference player - just because we haven't had a decent winger for ages don't over estimate Wright.

I'll give him credit for laying the ball off the Sam today - but I could have done that, so why does that make him Man of the Match.

I'm sorry, but a player that pussys out of challenges doesn't deserve to be a footballer, add to that his poorness all round, then compare to a proper winger...and you'll see Wright in a different light. Just please see Wright for what he is.

If you didnt know Car's existed, and some one presented you with a 1979 Yugo, you'd probably think "Wow, this is a great thing", its the same with Wright, it's been years since we've had a winger of any description, so we all think Wright is the dogs balls. It's a similar situation with strikers, for years, we hadn't had a decent striker, we'd had to make do with dross, then Martin Butler comes along, and shows us what a proper striker is - soon a winger will come along and show us what a proper winger is.

Mark Wright has got ability, he's got pace and skill and can cross a ball - just like Ish - the difference is, Ish knows that a wingers job is to beat his man, get to the byline and swing one in, and as a result, Ish will cause a defence more trouble in 10 mins that Wright will in an entire 90!

Anyway...

Decent match, still not playing that well, doing a little too much long ball stuff for my liking, I'm losing faith in Keatesy, I'd much rather see Kinsella - he may be much older, but his classyness shines through.[/u]

Good point coxy :lol: :lol:

[coxy_saddler]

I think people need to watch a few videos of a proper right winger because this over-rating of Mark Wright is spiralling out of control!

On the Ball
Running past people
On the ball mark is very nervous. He has pace, but doesn't use it, he never ever knocks it past his man, he nearly always turns inside his man and then tries to cross, which in turns creates an easier-to-defend situation for the defenders. His crossing is tediously average and terribly inconsistent. He's capable of placing the ball on someones head, but rarely looks up - most of his crosses today were catching practice for the keeper.

Passing
Marks passing has improved over the past couple of seasons, but he still has a poor passing range

First Touch
Bloody hell, Not the 'strachen view' The ' phil view' analysin centre :lol:
He's got an awful first touch - see today when he let the ball just slide past him - thats terrible, its basic football. He gave the ball away several times in todays game because his touch let him down.

Off the Ball
Making Runs
Rarely makes a burst forward, mostly because he's asleep most of the time.

Making Tackles
Non existant, he wimps out of any physical contact.

General awareness
He's comotosed if he isn't on the ball, so many times today, their left back had gone walk about, Wright, instead of giving Keates or Dobson an option by bursting down the right wing, just stands square of the ball and to the right.

All in all, he's average at best - but to give him the Man of the Match because of the hyperbole that is surrounding him at the moment is quite ridiculous - why people can't see how poor a footballer he is - is completely beyond me, but I suspect it has something to do with us not having had a decent winger for a long long time, thus making Wright look decent. Don't people remember Matias, Ainsworth, Peron? They were proper wingers, they knew how to beat their man, they knew that crosses coming in behind a defender were much harder to defend than crosses coming in infront of defenders, they knew how to find space, they tackled hard - Mark Wright just can't do any of these things.

I think people see Mark Wright as a good player because he is, essentially our only outlet from midfield - almost all of our attacking play comes through passing the ball to him and letting him do his thing - that doesn't mean 'his thing' is any good. But because all our attacking play comes through him he seems to get a lot of plaudits. The reason the attacking play goes through him is because 95% of the time Dobson and Keates are sitting very deep, and having Fox on the left is like having two left backs playing - so you see what I mean, Wright sees the ball a lot, but it doesn't mean he's the best thing since sliced bread.

I just can't stand to see a player pussy out of 99% of challenges like him, get one half decent cross in per game, never beat his man, and lay off one pass when 3-on-2 ... and get man of the match!! Get a half decent right winger playing for us, and you'll really see why I'm right.

Don't get me wrong, he's had one of his better games today, but technically, tactically, mentally and physically he's no better than a standard conference player - just because we haven't had a decent winger for ages don't over estimate Wright.

I'll give him credit for laying the ball off the Sam today - but I could have done that, so why does that make him Man of the Match.

I'm sorry, but a player that pussys out of challenges doesn't deserve to be a footballer, add to that his poorness all round, then compare to a proper winger...and you'll see Wright in a different light. Just please see Wright for what he is.

If you didnt know Car's existed, and some one presented you with a 1979 Yugo, you'd probably think "Wow, this is a great thing", its the same with Wright, it's been years since we've had a winger of any description, so we all think Wright is the dogs balls. It's a similar situation with strikers, for years, we hadn't had a decent striker, we'd had to make do with dross, then Martin Butler comes along, and shows us what a proper striker is - soon a winger will come along and show us what a proper winger is.

Mark Wright has got ability, he's got pace and skill and can cross a ball - just like Ish - the difference is, Ish knows that a wingers job is to beat his man, get to the byline and swing one in, and as a result, Ish will cause a defence more trouble in 10 mins that Wright will in an entire 90!

Anyway...

Decent match, still not playing that well, doing a little too much long ball stuff for my liking, I'm losing faith in Keatesy, I'd much rather see Kinsella - he may be much older, but his classyness shines through.[/u]

Good point coxy :lol: :lol:

I meant to put, Bloody hell i knew there was a 'strachen view' This is the 'phil view' :lol:

[1933]

I think people need to watch a few videos of a proper right winger because this over-rating of Mark Wright is spiralling out of control!

On the Ball
Running past people
On the ball mark is very nervous. He has pace, but doesn't use it, he never ever knocks it past his man, he nearly always turns inside his man and then tries to cross, which in turns creates an easier-to-defend situation for the defenders. His crossing is tediously average and terribly inconsistent. He's capable of placing the ball on someones head, but rarely looks up - most of his crosses today were catching practice for the keeper.

Passing
Marks passing has improved over the past couple of seasons, but he still has a poor passing range

First Touch
He's got an awful first touch - see today when he let the ball just slide past him - thats terrible, its basic football. He gave the ball away several times in todays game because his touch let him down.

Off the Ball
Making Runs
Rarely makes a burst forward, mostly because he's asleep most of the time.

Making Tackles
Non existant, he wimps out of any physical contact.

General awareness
He's comotosed if he isn't on the ball, so many times today, their left back had gone walk about, Wright, instead of giving Keates or Dobson an option by bursting down the right wing, just stands square of the ball and to the right.

All in all, he's average at best - but to give him the Man of the Match because of the hyperbole that is surrounding him at the moment is quite ridiculous - why people can't see how poor a footballer he is - is completely beyond me, but I suspect it has something to do with us not having had a decent winger for a long long time, thus making Wright look decent. Don't people remember Matias, Ainsworth, Peron? They were proper wingers, they knew how to beat their man, they knew that crosses coming in behind a defender were much harder to defend than crosses coming in infront of defenders, they knew how to find space, they tackled hard - Mark Wright just can't do any of these things.

I think people see Mark Wright as a good player because he is, essentially our only outlet from midfield - almost all of our attacking play comes through passing the ball to him and letting him do his thing - that doesn't mean 'his thing' is any good. But because all our attacking play comes through him he seems to get a lot of plaudits. The reason the attacking play goes through him is because 95% of the time Dobson and Keates are sitting very deep, and having Fox on the left is like having two left backs playing - so you see what I mean, Wright sees the ball a lot, but it doesn't mean he's the best thing since sliced bread.

I just can't stand to see a player pussy out of 99% of challenges like him, get one half decent cross in per game, never beat his man, and lay off one pass when 3-on-2 ... and get man of the match!! Get a half decent right winger playing for us, and you'll really see why I'm right.

Don't get me wrong, he's had one of his better games today, but technically, tactically, mentally and physically he's no better than a standard conference player - just because we haven't had a decent winger for ages don't over estimate Wright.

I'll give him credit for laying the ball off the Sam today - but I could have done that, so why does that make him Man of the Match.

I'm sorry, but a player that pussys out of challenges doesn't deserve to be a footballer, add to that his poorness all round, then compare to a proper winger...and you'll see Wright in a different light. Just please see Wright for what he is.

If you didnt know Car's existed, and some one presented you with a 1979 Yugo, you'd probably think "Wow, this is a great thing", its the same with Wright, it's been years since we've had a winger of any description, so we all think Wright is the dogs balls. It's a similar situation with strikers, for years, we hadn't had a decent striker, we'd had to make do with dross, then Martin Butler comes along, and shows us what a proper striker is - soon a winger will come along and show us what a proper winger is.

Mark Wright has got ability, he's got pace and skill and can cross a ball - just like Ish - the difference is, Ish knows that a wingers job is to beat his man, get to the byline and swing one in, and as a result, Ish will cause a defence more trouble in 10 mins that Wright will in an entire 90!

Anyway...

Decent match, still not playing that well, doing a little too much long ball stuff for my liking, I'm losing faith in Keatesy, I'd much rather see Kinsella - he may be much older, but his classyness shines through.[/u]

Some sort of personal vendetta against the lad? :?

[Fray Bentos is God!]

Essay boy.

[philthesaddler]

No, its not a vendetta, I'm quite capable of judging players equally, and without bias. I shout encouragement every time he gets the ball, and support him as voiciferously as any other fan, but I'm also capable of seeing past the hyperbole, and seeing Mark Wright for what he is.

In the last 3 years, how many right wingers have been on our books... ie how many people have challenged Wright for his place?

Also, without any other winger to compare him to his performances look good. Add to that the fact that Ish, who's probably the most naturally gifted winger we've had in yonks, is now [forgive the pun] demonised because of his youthful exuberrance with fistycuffs that he can't be started.

[KJC]

Great result, if not a particularly great performance.

Macclesfield were very well organised and gave us a few problems, I can't see them being anywhere near the bottom, come the end of the season.

Wrighty did well today (despite Phil's essay).

I was more worried about the Centre Midfield performance, cus we didn't really control this area of the field at all, at any time.

I thought Pead was the weak link today, which was a shame, because I usually think he is usually steady if nothing else.

Westwood had a cracking match, he really was solid through-out.

Special mention for Butler... He works so hard. Tirelessly making runs all the time.
Even when he hasn't got the ball, his runs create space for others to run into.


Superb tactics and sustitutions today, so a lot of credit has to go to Richard Money!



Did anyone see, when Dann scored the goal, Money do the "We're not worthy!" bow down to Jon Whitney? .... I wonder whether he suggested the substitution?

[WFC_Rob]

Phil - your post won't get the credit it deserves because of the hyperbole you refer to.
I happen to think you're spot on with most of that. I have no problem with Mark Wright, no vendetta as people seem to think, but it surprises me how few people see these failings in his game.

[Neuromantic]

I agree entirely with Phil - One Hafl Wright is my new nickname for him :D

[Percie]

The MWAS is not happy with your post Phillip.......I'd sleep with the light on tonight if I was you son. ;)

[Bernie]

In the last 3 years, how many right wingers have been on our books... ie how many people have challenged Wright for his place?

This season there is at present only Tony Bedeau, but last season we had Kevin James, Paul Devlin, Daryl Taylor and for part of the time Darren Wrack. That is quite a lot of challenge - it is surprising how many matches Wright has played (82 starts) usually as our first choice right winger.

[WFC_Rob]

In the last 3 years, how many right wingers have been on our books... ie how many people have challenged Wright for his place?

This season there is at present only Tony Bedeau, but last season we had Kevin James, Paul Devlin, Daryl Taylor and for part of the time Darren Wrack. That is quite a lot of challenge - it is surprising how many matches Wright has played (82 starts) usually as our first choice right winger.

Let's take them each in turn....
Bedeau - yet to settle in because of his knee surgery.
James - played up front because we got rid of our strikers and he was the next best option.
Devlin - same as James really - it was decided that he didn't have the pace to be a winger and I don't think he had the attitude for it anyway.
Daryl Taylor - spent the best part of a year out injured.
Wrack - before his injury he was playing on the left because we literally had nobody else to play there. He's a much better player than Wright, which is why he was able to fill in on the left.

MW has hardly had to fight for his place has he?

[geoffwhiting]

I think people need to watch a few videos of a proper right winger because this over-rating of Mark Wright is spiralling out of control!

On the Ball
Running past people
On the ball mark is very nervous. He has pace, but doesn't use it, he never ever knocks it past his man, he nearly always turns inside his man and then tries to cross, which in turns creates an easier-to-defend situation for the defenders. His crossing is tediously average and terribly inconsistent. He's capable of placing the ball on someones head, but rarely looks up - most of his crosses today were catching practice for the keeper.

Passing
Marks passing has improved over the past couple of seasons, but he still has a poor passing range

First Touch
He's got an awful first touch - see today when he let the ball just slide past him - thats terrible, its basic football. He gave the ball away several times in todays game because his touch let him down.

Off the Ball
Making Runs
Rarely makes a burst forward, mostly because he's asleep most of the time.

Making Tackles
Non existant, he wimps out of any physical contact.

General awareness
He's comotosed if he isn't on the ball, so many times today, their left back had gone walk about, Wright, instead of giving Keates or Dobson an option by bursting down the right wing, just stands square of the ball and to the right.

All in all, he's average at best - but to give him the Man of the Match because of the hyperbole that is surrounding him at the moment is quite ridiculous - why people can't see how poor a footballer he is - is completely beyond me, but I suspect it has something to do with us not having had a decent winger for a long long time, thus making Wright look decent. Don't people remember Matias, Ainsworth, Peron? They were proper wingers, they knew how to beat their man, they knew that crosses coming in behind a defender were much harder to defend than crosses coming in infront of defenders, they knew how to find space, they tackled hard - Mark Wright just can't do any of these things.

I think people see Mark Wright as a good player because he is, essentially our only outlet from midfield - almost all of our attacking play comes through passing the ball to him and letting him do his thing - that doesn't mean 'his thing' is any good. But because all our attacking play comes through him he seems to get a lot of plaudits. The reason the attacking play goes through him is because 95% of the time Dobson and Keates are sitting very deep, and having Fox on the left is like having two left backs playing - so you see what I mean, Wright sees the ball a lot, but it doesn't mean he's the best thing since sliced bread.

I just can't stand to see a player pussy out of 99% of challenges like him, get one half decent cross in per game, never beat his man, and lay off one pass when 3-on-2 ... and get man of the match!! Get a half decent right winger playing for us, and you'll really see why I'm right.

Don't get me wrong, he's had one of his better games today, but technically, tactically, mentally and physically he's no better than a standard conference player - just because we haven't had a decent winger for ages don't over estimate Wright.

I'll give him credit for laying the ball off the Sam today - but I could have done that, so why does that make him Man of the Match.

I'm sorry, but a player that pussys out of challenges doesn't deserve to be a footballer, add to that his poorness all round, then compare to a proper winger...and you'll see Wright in a different light. Just please see Wright for what he is.

If you didnt know Car's existed, and some one presented you with a 1979 Yugo, you'd probably think "Wow, this is a great thing", its the same with Wright, it's been years since we've had a winger of any description, so we all think Wright is the dogs balls. It's a similar situation with strikers, for years, we hadn't had a decent striker, we'd had to make do with dross, then Martin Butler comes along, and shows us what a proper striker is - soon a winger will come along and show us what a proper winger is.

Mark Wright has got ability, he's got pace and skill and can cross a ball - just like Ish - the difference is, Ish knows that a wingers job is to beat his man, get to the byline and swing one in, and as a result, Ish will cause a defence more trouble in 10 mins that Wright will in an entire 90!

Anyway...

Decent match, still not playing that well, doing a little too much long ball stuff for my liking, I'm losing faith in Keatesy, I'd much rather see Kinsella - he may be much older, but his classyness shines through.[/u]

Some sort of personal vendetta against the lad? :?

God I've read some incorrect stuff in my time, BUT .........

"cars" is a plural, which means that the apostrophe is TOTALLY wrong !

One car - two cars. One car - two cars. One car - two cars. One car - two cars. One care - two cars. One car - two cars - there !

Sorry Phil, just kiddin' around. Phil you make some good points, Wright is far from the complete winger or the finished article. He IS improving though IMHO, playing quite well, and worth his place from the members of the squad that we have.

Comparing him to Peron though - well - that's a bit of a tall order. JP was magnificent, silky smooth, total class, and even mentioning Pedro and Ainsworth in the same sentence is hardly appropriate, never mind Mark Wright.

However, for the time being MW is laying on some decent balls, some decent crosses, worrying defences with his pace, and he's not out of place in this division. I think you are a bit unkind calling him a Conference player, he IS better than that.

I'm not his number one fan by any means, but you are being extremely hard on the lad. There were plenty of examples today of players who gave the ball away, produced poor passes, treated the ball like a hot potato, when the situation was crying out for a Kinsella to put his foot on the ball and calm things down. So to dedicate so much time to ripping Wright apart is a bit mis-placed IMHO.

Today we took a lot of pressure, plenty of incoming shots, loads of corners, Clayton saved us more than once, and Macclesfield themselves saved us at times with some awful shooting. To be honest I think a great deal of it was self-inflicted, but the blame for that lies at the feet (and heads) of several players who simply would NOT control the ball and keep it.

I wouldn't have reserved so much time for Wright this evening, there were plenty of other problems out there to discuss without picking on one individual.