Brexit Breakfast

[SaigonSaddler]

Just out of interest, Hey - look over there everyone, it's a giant hummingbird!

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[chunkster]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

[Exile]

No, I didn't. As circumstances had it, we didn't have to agree. So?

Indeed. Why did you not want to join?

It wasn't right for the UK at the time. Neither was it compulsory, so I fail to see any point.

[Super Gabor]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

[Manchester Saddler]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

One man's opinion.

I would hardly call Jacob Rees-Mogg or Nigel Farage peasants!

[aaaae]

No, I didn't. As circumstances had it, we didn't have to agree. So?

Indeed. Why did you not want to join?

It wasn't right for the UK at the time. Neither was it compulsory, so I fail to see any point.

Has it been right for the UK at any time since do you think?

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Just out of interest, Hey - look over there everyone, it's a giant hummingbird!

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[SaigonSaddler]

Just out of interest, Hey - look over there everyone, it's a giant hummingbird!

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[chunkster]

Thought it was pretty decent of Macron to agree with us leaving the EU :mrgreen: even said if they had had the same vote in france they would have voted the same. so that would have been 2 countries with more brain dead idiots than enough :mrgreen: I wonder if they had had a vote in Germany what the outcome would have been?

[SaigonSaddler]

Thought it was pretty decent of Macron to agree with us leaving the EU :mrgreen: even said if they had had the same vote in france they would have voted the same. so that would have been 2 countries with more brain dead idiots than enough :mrgreen: I wonder if they had had a vote in Germany what the outcome would have been?

Good grief! A politician that is both engagingly diplomatic and intelligent. But you missed this direct quote ...

'A lot of losers voted to leave' :lol: :lol: :lol: Well said Macron! Well said! :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-euro ... and-frexit

France possibly may have voted out at the time, but there's naff all chance of them doing so now, having watched the complete farce the UK has become and moving past us economically. Own-goaltastic. :idea:

[Wragbyred]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

[Welsh_Saddler]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Hindley
Ian Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

FTFY ..... and Hear! Hear!

[Manchester Saddler]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Hindley
Ian Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

So what about incorrect convictions? How many people have been given life sentences and then later proved to be innocent?

Even one mistake is too much!

[chunkster]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

works for me :wink:

[chunkster]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Hindley
Ian Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

So what about incorrect convictions? How many people have been given life sentences and then later proved to be innocent?

Even one mistake is too much!

With the way DNA and forensic science evidence works in the 21st century i doubt that one would happen now 8) so bring it back i say :D

[SaigonSaddler]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Hindley
Ian Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

So what about incorrect convictions? How many people have been given life sentences and then later proved to be innocent?

Even one mistake is too much!

With the way DNA and forensic science evidence works in the 21st century i doubt that one would happen now 8) so bring it back i say :D

Still plenty of holes for the innocent to fall through, and there always will be. I don't think the death penalty reflects very well on the populace demanding one to be honest, or the current regimes operating them are anything to aspire to: some parts of the US, China, Vietnam, various middle eastern countries, Indonesia etc ... no thanks.

[chunkster]

Thought it was pretty decent of Macron to agree with us leaving the EU :mrgreen: even said if they had had the same vote in france they would have voted the same. so that would have been 2 countries with more brain dead idiots than enough :mrgreen: I wonder if they had had a vote in Germany what the outcome would have been?

Good grief! A politician that is both engagingly diplomatic and intelligent. But you missed this direct quote ...

'A lot of losers voted to leave' :lol: :lol: :lol: Well said Macron! Well said! :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-euro ... and-frexit

France possibly may have voted out at the time, but there's naff all chance of them doing so now, having watched the complete farce the UK has become and moving past us economically. Own-goaltastic. :idea:

And who's fault is the farce? the people who did not want it? if we had all stuck together we would have been fine now :wink:

[SaigonSaddler]

Thought it was pretty decent of Macron to agree with us leaving the EU :mrgreen: even said if they had had the same vote in france they would have voted the same. so that would have been 2 countries with more brain dead idiots than enough :mrgreen: I wonder if they had had a vote in Germany what the outcome would have been?

Good grief! A politician that is both engagingly diplomatic and intelligent. But you missed this direct quote ...

'A lot of losers voted to leave' :lol: :lol: :lol: Well said Macron! Well said! :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-euro ... and-frexit

France possibly may have voted out at the time, but there's naff all chance of them doing so now, having watched the complete farce the UK has become and moving past us economically. Own-goaltastic. :idea:

And who's fault is the farce? the people who did not want it? if we had all stuck together we would have been fine now :wink:

LOL

Rehash of 'talking the country down' bobbins. :D

Brexit, in a nutshell ... more of a splat.



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[chunkster]

Thought it was pretty decent of Macron to agree with us leaving the EU :mrgreen: even said if they had had the same vote in france they would have voted the same. so that would have been 2 countries with more brain dead idiots than enough :mrgreen: I wonder if they had had a vote in Germany what the outcome would have been?

Good grief! A politician that is both engagingly diplomatic and intelligent. But you missed this direct quote ...

'A lot of losers voted to leave' :lol: :lol: :lol: Well said Macron! Well said! :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-euro ... and-frexit

France possibly may have voted out at the time, but there's naff all chance of them doing so now, having watched the complete farce the UK has become and moving past us economically. Own-goaltastic. :idea:

And who's fault is the farce? the people who did not want it? if we had all stuck together we would have been fine now :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: class

[Ancient Moaner]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

works for me :wink:

Absobloodylootly, add on the scum bag ISIS terrorists! Now in our jails spreading their sick ideas, that any human not believing their weird Islamic programme should die. Living on the state three meals a day, warm & cosy watching Sky.

Find us a solution to that predicament Manchester?

[SaigonSaddler]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

works for me :wink:

Absobloodylootly, add on the scum bag ISIS terrorists! Now in our jails spreading their sick ideas, that any human not believing their weird Islamic programme should die. Living on the state three meals a day, warm & cosy watching Sky.

Find us a solution to that predicament Manchester?

Because you'd be moving a significant step closer to the very thing that you despise? You'd also have scores of Islamic extremists queueing around the block to be martyred at the hands of the evil British state.

Not that you've thought this through, just like Brexit, firing from the hip and sod the consequences. And look how well that's turning out!

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[Ancient Moaner]

So Saigon, what is your solution to ISIS inspired terrorists murdering innocent children at a concert? Why should they be kept in comfort at our expense?
The Americans have one of the best solutions, keeping them at arms length in a god forsaken outback, but are ridiculed by the PC mad world that we sadly have to live in for being too cruel, ah didums.

[El_Nombre]

So Saigon, what is your solution to ISIS inspired terrorists murdering innocent children at a concert? Why should they be kept in comfort at our expense?
The Americans have one of the best solutions, keeping them at arms length in a god forsaken outback, but are ridiculed by the PC mad world that we sadly have to live in for being too cruel, ah didums.

ISIS are Mexicans???

Meanwhile it's remainers that are accused of using Project Fear. Couldn't make it up.

[SaigonSaddler]

So Saigon, what is your solution to ISIS inspired terrorists murdering innocent children at a concert? Why should they be kept in comfort at our expense?
The Americans have one of the best solutions, keeping them at arms length in a god forsaken outback, but are ridiculed by the PC mad world that we sadly have to live in for being too cruel, ah didums.

The solution? How about maintaining our core values and not melting down into a reactionary puddle of emotion - precisely what they want by the way.

Tolerance, rule of law, freedom of expression - these are the values of Britain, so I'd invite you to start adhering to them. America is definately NOT an example to follow.

[Ancient Moaner]

Are you self employed? Your responses seem so very quick it's astonishing, I can't keep up and I'm thankfully retired!
Still think your wrong! But we all have our opinions.
You are the parent of a child that was murdered at Manchester...would you be so 'they know not what they do' forgiving?
I would most certainly plot MY revenge, sometime, somewhere, somehow. That's what being a human being is all about surely?

[scott_powell]

So Saigon, what is your solution to ISIS inspired terrorists murdering innocent children at a concert? Why should they be kept in comfort at our expense?
The Americans have one of the best solutions, keeping them at arms length in a god forsaken outback, but are ridiculed by the PC mad world that we sadly have to live in for being too cruel, ah didums.

[post moderated - hate speech]

Whilst I do think we need to be firmer with ALL terrorists I also think going down the American route would be disastrous. What about that white fella who drove into a load of innocent Muslim folk in Finsbury Park? Do you think he should receive the same punishment as ISIS inspired terrorists? Or is that just "revenge".

[SaigonSaddler]

Are you self employed? Your responses seem so very quick it's astonishing, I can't keep up and I'm thankfully retired!
Still think your wrong! But we all have our opinions.
You are the parent of a child that was murdered at Manchester...would you be so 'they know not what they do' forgiving?
I would most certainly plot MY revenge, sometime, somewhere, somehow. That's what being a human being is all about surely?

Er, no that's just you. I'm pretty sure that every individual human comes to their own conclusion about 'what being human is all about' and this is constantly evolving. Sure, people can slip into stimulus - response cycles but that invariably doesn't help anyone very much.

Why should everyone be dictated to and go off the deep end due to the obscene actions of a thin smattering of nutters? Seems arse about face.

Apologies for responding too quickly ... :?:

[Manchester Saddler]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Hindley
Ian Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

So what about incorrect convictions? How many people have been given life sentences and then later proved to be innocent?

Even one mistake is too much!

With the way DNA and forensic science evidence works in the 21st century i doubt that one would happen now 8) so bring it back i say :D

You hear about mistakes ALL THE TIME, police messing up the DNA samples etc. Also, what if you had been with a murder victim not long before somebody else killed them and your DNA was all over the place? WItnesses might say they saw you with the victim before their death and that would seal it for you.

I can imagine you would be clamouring for the death penalty as a jury found you guilty based on the evidence.

Once somebody is executed you cannot undo that.

Hence the reason why the death penalty is fundamentally wrong.

[Manchester Saddler]

So Saigon, what is your solution to ISIS inspired terrorists murdering innocent children at a concert? Why should they be kept in comfort at our expense?
The Americans have one of the best solutions, keeping them at arms length in a god forsaken outback, but are ridiculed by the PC mad world that we sadly have to live in for being too cruel, ah didums.

AM - we've had terrorism for many years - ISIS is just one of the latest factions. Also, the Manchester bomber executed himself as well as killing innocent people.

We all know your views on Muslims generally but I'd like to know whether you extend the same thoughts to Darren Osborne, a white supremacist who ploughed a van into INNOCENT Muslims, or so-called "freedom fighters" who "fight oppression" in other countries using mass murder and terrorism to change people's minds?

Or the guy who killed Jo Cox?

Here's an interesting statistic for you (since you seem obsessed with ISIS):

Between 1970 and 1984 - 2211 people in the UK were killed due to terrorist attacks.

Between 1985 and 1999 - 1094 people in the UK were killed due to terrorism

Between 2000 and 2017 - only 126 people were killed due to terrorism.

So ISIS, although they are murdering bustards, are not actually responsible for as many murders.

I guess if you favour the death penalty then you will think they should all be bumped off. That's your opinion - but Muslims are being vilified for the actions of a psychotic few. And they are also the victims, let's not forget.

I thought I would share that with you to take the emphasis off Muslims!

[Wragbyred]

Good of Macron to agree we did the right thing in voting out, and the fact that if the same referendum has taken place in France they would have voted out as well :D give the peasants a voice and they will make themselves heard.

If you give the peasants a voice in a referendum Chunkster, we'd also no doubt have a return of the death penalty :shock:

Fred West
Myra Hindley
Ian Huntley
Peter Sutcliffe
Levi Belfield
Dennis Nielsen
Ian Brady
Seems like a good idea to me

So what about incorrect convictions? How many people have been given life sentences and then later proved to be innocent?

Even one mistake is too much!

Manchester, I chose those names for a reason, all had irrefutable evidence of guilt.
I will pick one name from that list, Ian Brady, a man so mentally unstable that he was unable to be ever released into the general population.

Explain why he should have lived any life after what he did to those children?