Liking that.
Options on the bench too.
Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
Reports and reaction from the 2008-09 season as Walsall finished 13th in League 1
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
Oh crud, its ging to be a long 75 minutes
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
ricketts sent off again .. not good!!
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
Bugger. He needs to sort this out, is that his second for violent conduct?
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
We made it to half time at least.
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
Just spoke to Percie at the game, he reckons it was a joke of a sending off. bloody rob styles.
1-0 down now, typical ex walsall player scores.
Need to draw else unfortunately the play off dream is over.
(I think it was always a dream anyway tbh..)
1-0 down now, typical ex walsall player scores.
Need to draw else unfortunately the play off dream is over.
(I think it was always a dream anyway tbh..)
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
loads of people are telling me that Styles is 'cheating' atm. One of the worst refereeing performances for years against us apparently...
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
I have come to the conclusion that as far as match predicting goes I am a pile of gash :evil:
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
I will view the tv coverage of the Ricketts incident with interest. This is his 3rd dismissal, for violent conduct, and Mick Kearns said that it warranted a caution, only. The commentator and Chris Hutchings were both less generous towards Ricketts, having no complaints against the sending-off. Indeed, Hutchings said that MR should have known better.
The fact remains that Ricketts is one of our most (THE most?) gifted and experienced players, a full international, the team vice-captain, and one to whom the younger players should look for a good example. Despite this, his disciplinary record will soon be worse than John Keister's (now, there WAS a thug). So what does Ricketts do, right in front of one of the most card-happy referees in the league? We will now lose his services for 5 games unless he wins an appeal (unlikely) or the F.A. "throw the book at him". At least this will enable Nicholls to move into the middle and allow Shroot to come in on the wing.
Ricketts is an idiot and I hope that Hutchings fines him heavily.
The fact remains that Ricketts is one of our most (THE most?) gifted and experienced players, a full international, the team vice-captain, and one to whom the younger players should look for a good example. Despite this, his disciplinary record will soon be worse than John Keister's (now, there WAS a thug). So what does Ricketts do, right in front of one of the most card-happy referees in the league? We will now lose his services for 5 games unless he wins an appeal (unlikely) or the F.A. "throw the book at him". At least this will enable Nicholls to move into the middle and allow Shroot to come in on the wing.
Ricketts is an idiot and I hope that Hutchings fines him heavily.
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
Well that dan wheeler fella i think it was said that Ricketts is a disgrace to his profession but Kearns said it wasnt that bad so i would have to see it before i pass further comment on that,but all in all i am really disapointed with it today we were up against it after 15 minutes especially upfront wise and i heard weston had a shocker to.
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
"We must expect reverses,even defeats. They are sent to teach us wisdom"
Gen. Robert E. Lee
"Sic Semper Tyrannis"
Gen. Robert E. Lee
"Sic Semper Tyrannis"
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
Ince 7
Palmer 6
Weston 6
Smith 6
Boertien 6
Nicholls 5
Mattis 6
Hughes 6
Zaboub 6
Deeney 6
Ricketts 0
Jabo 5
Shroot looked useful in last 5 mins
Game ruined by Ricketts / Styles ( reserve judgement as to which one till i see it again , but wasnt expecting to see the red come out . He might have got it right as Ricketts can be an idiot , but Styles loves being centre of attention and seems like an A1 prat .)
We never got going , but not surprising . Frustrating thing is that Southend looked very ordinary indeed until they scored , and at 11 v 11 i did fancy us , but Deeney on his own up front was too much to ask . Zaboub was looking lively , but obviously had to defend more once we were down to ten.
Non event really , and a bizarre £21.55 to get in .
Nice drop of Guiness in the pub near the ground (something and Boar?) was the only plus point . Oh , and Shroots of promise in the last 5
Disappointing day
Palmer 6
Weston 6
Smith 6
Boertien 6
Nicholls 5
Mattis 6
Hughes 6
Zaboub 6
Deeney 6
Ricketts 0
Jabo 5
Shroot looked useful in last 5 mins
Game ruined by Ricketts / Styles ( reserve judgement as to which one till i see it again , but wasnt expecting to see the red come out . He might have got it right as Ricketts can be an idiot , but Styles loves being centre of attention and seems like an A1 prat .)
We never got going , but not surprising . Frustrating thing is that Southend looked very ordinary indeed until they scored , and at 11 v 11 i did fancy us , but Deeney on his own up front was too much to ask . Zaboub was looking lively , but obviously had to defend more once we were down to ten.
Non event really , and a bizarre £21.55 to get in .
Nice drop of Guiness in the pub near the ground (something and Boar?) was the only plus point . Oh , and Shroots of promise in the last 5
Disappointing day
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
MILO5 wrote:
and a bizarre £21.55 to get in .
Thats cockney clubs for ya.
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
Those of you that think the sun shines out of Michael Ricketts backside got your answer today. Yet another act of childish petulance and a third red card has ended any outside chance of a play off hope that we may have had.
The guy is a gifted footballer but is 'blessed' with the brain the size of a peanut. Today he saw one of his teammates clearly fouled in the centre circle, which Styles ignored, and proceeded to seek revenge by kicking out at the player and knocking him to the floor. As much as I dislike Styles I'd say he got that one right, a right straight red card.
Not a very good game. We had one good chance in the first half that Deeney blasted over and only one shot ( way off target) in the second. They were average but had the excellent Grant in the centre of midfield and he was the difference. We defended manfully but we were never going to last. Even Betsy looked decent but against the hapless one footed Boertien, even I would fancy my chances against him.
Promotion prospects over. Time to begin clearing out the dead wood, including the injury prone, prima donna Ricketts, peg leg Boertien and Hoof Palmer.
Positives are that Shroot looks like a proper footballer in the Gary O'Neill mould.
The guy is a gifted footballer but is 'blessed' with the brain the size of a peanut. Today he saw one of his teammates clearly fouled in the centre circle, which Styles ignored, and proceeded to seek revenge by kicking out at the player and knocking him to the floor. As much as I dislike Styles I'd say he got that one right, a right straight red card.
Not a very good game. We had one good chance in the first half that Deeney blasted over and only one shot ( way off target) in the second. They were average but had the excellent Grant in the centre of midfield and he was the difference. We defended manfully but we were never going to last. Even Betsy looked decent but against the hapless one footed Boertien, even I would fancy my chances against him.
Promotion prospects over. Time to begin clearing out the dead wood, including the injury prone, prima donna Ricketts, peg leg Boertien and Hoof Palmer.
Positives are that Shroot looks like a proper footballer in the Gary O'Neill mould.
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
Disappointing result, in a match where 11 players would have done better than 10 did. :(
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
OldPenkSaddler wrote:Those of you that think the sun shines out of Michael Ricketts backside got your answer today. Yet another act of childish petulance and a third red card has ended any outside chance of a play off hope that we may have had.
The guy is a gifted footballer but is 'blessed' with the brain the size of a peanut. Today he saw one of his teammates clearly fouled in the centre circle, which Styles ignored, and proceeded to seek revenge by kicking out at the player and knocking him to the floor. As much as I dislike Styles I'd say he got that one right, a right straight red card.
Not a very good game. We had one good chance in the first half that Deeney blasted over and only one shot ( way off target) in the second. They were average but had the excellent Grant in the centre of midfield and he was the difference. We defended manfully but we were never going to last. Even Betsy looked decent but against the hapless one footed Boertien, even I would fancy my chances against him.
Promotion prospects over. Time to begin clearing out the dead wood, including the injury prone, prima donna Ricketts, peg leg Boertien and Hoof Palmer.
Positives are that Shroot looks like a proper footballer in the Gary O'Neill mould.
Firstly, ta for the report. As I wasn't there, it's useful to hear about the Ricketts incident from someone who was.
I do take issue with some of your points though, particularly the way you comment on Boertein. His return to the side has benefitted us as much as any other change to the team since the Hutchings/O'Connor takeover. Whilst he may well have had a bad game today, to rashly say we should get rid of him at the end of the season is a bit over the top in my view.
Palmer has been consistently poor since we signed him, so I'll agree with you there.
With regard to Michael Ricketts, we all know that he's a top player. With that ability however comes a certain level of baggage. That's why he's playing in League One. Other players may suffer from a lack of consistency or a liability to injury, but the thing holding Ricketts back is his attitude.
Ricketts will always be worth his place in the side when he's available. And for me, he's available enough for us to not only keep him, but to build a side around him. What happened today was rash and contributed to a very poor disciplinary record for the season. Would we be any higher in the league table without him though? I don't think so.
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
WFC_Rob wrote:Ricketts will always be worth his place in the side when he's available. And for me, he's available enough for us to not only keep him, but to build a side around him. What happened today was rash and contributed to a very poor disciplinary record for the season. Would we be any higher in the league table without him though? I don't think so.
Not that I'm a fan of them, but a few random statistics:
League games played this season -24 ( inc 2 as sub) Total by club 35 - so played approx 2/3rds of games
Points scored when playing - 32 Average 1.33 per game
Points scored when not playing - 15 Average 1.36 per game.
4 yellow cards
3 red cards
Fortunately only three opinions matter, Hutchings, MOC and JB. I doubt he'll be here next season somehow as it'll be a chance for another signing on fee elsewhere.
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
very disappointing result , the sending off didn't help .
3 home games on the bounce nothing else but 9 points will do.
The fat lady ain't singing just yet :wink:
3 home games on the bounce nothing else but 9 points will do.
The fat lady ain't singing just yet :wink:
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
I said at the start of the season that signing Ricketts was a mistake, and yet again im proved right.
Bonser spoiled any chance of the play offs, but the 5% chance we DID have, has now dissapeared thanks to the big head with the massive chip on his shoulder
Bonser spoiled any chance of the play offs, but the 5% chance we DID have, has now dissapeared thanks to the big head with the massive chip on his shoulder
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
having seen it again , as much as i'd like to slate Styles , it was a red as he raised an arm .
you just cant do that , and Ricketts is supposed to be a senior pro .
3 reds in 3/4 of a season is a total joke, especially from a striker - from a defender as the last man / hand ball on the line etc maybe i could forgive , but not just petty idiotic sendings off
the ( non )reaction of our players spoke volumes - no protests , and just a few shakes of the head ( notably Clayton ) - you could say at Styles , but more likely at our own brain dead centre forward for making them endure 80 mins with ten men. the revival has been built around team work and playing for each other - shame Ricketts hasnt got a sense of responsibilty to this cause.
if i was Hutchings i would say one more breach of discipline and you can find another club , which , given his poor reputation attitude wise could well be in League 2 as he is the wrong side of 30 .
on a more positive note , overheard Jabo talking to some fans at half time, saying that Weston had picked up a back problem by half time ( may explain his non leap for the 2nd goal ) , so full marks for staying on and battling through
you just cant do that , and Ricketts is supposed to be a senior pro .
3 reds in 3/4 of a season is a total joke, especially from a striker - from a defender as the last man / hand ball on the line etc maybe i could forgive , but not just petty idiotic sendings off
the ( non )reaction of our players spoke volumes - no protests , and just a few shakes of the head ( notably Clayton ) - you could say at Styles , but more likely at our own brain dead centre forward for making them endure 80 mins with ten men. the revival has been built around team work and playing for each other - shame Ricketts hasnt got a sense of responsibilty to this cause.
if i was Hutchings i would say one more breach of discipline and you can find another club , which , given his poor reputation attitude wise could well be in League 2 as he is the wrong side of 30 .
on a more positive note , overheard Jabo talking to some fans at half time, saying that Weston had picked up a back problem by half time ( may explain his non leap for the 2nd goal ) , so full marks for staying on and battling through
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
swiftyboy wrote:I said at the start of the season that signing Ricketts was a mistake, and yet again im proved right.
Bonser spoiled any chance of the play offs, but the 5% chance we DID have, has now dissapeared thanks to the big head with the massive chip on his shoulder
You must be gutted that he's our leading scorer this season. Just imagine, we'd be in the top six without his goals. :roll:
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
swiftyboy wrote:I said at the start of the season that signing Ricketts was a mistake, and yet again im proved right.
Bonser spoiled any chance of the play offs, but the 5% chance we DID have, has now dissapeared thanks to the big head with the massive chip on his shoulder
Proved right? Are you joking? If anything, you're proved wrong. Ok he has had 3 red cards (I admit that is bad by anyones standards), but without his goals we'd be in a relegation dog fight right about now
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Re: Southend United (A) League 1 Saturday 7/3/09.
Wyrley_saddler wrote:swiftyboy wrote:I said at the start of the season that signing Ricketts was a mistake, and yet again im proved right.
Bonser spoiled any chance of the play offs, but the 5% chance we DID have, has now dissapeared thanks to the big head with the massive chip on his shoulder
Proved right? Are you joking? If anything, you're proved wrong. Ok he has had 3 red cards (I admit that is bad by anyones standards), but without his goals we'd be in a relegation dog fight right about now
Ah, but we'd have signed Fernando Torres if we hadn't been lumbered with Ricketts.
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