Should we have sacked Colin Lee?
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The key issues here are
1) We failed to beat 2 of our near relegation rivals that bank holiday weekend, would we have managed to overcome the oppenents with the same kind of performances
2) Having shown an interest in another job at a crucial part of the season, could Colin Lee have asked his players to be 100% commited during the run in and really mean it?
3) The team lost its way after Christmas and the Anti Lee faction was steadily growing. After speaking to Plymouth he will have lost the crowd for the last 4 or 5 games.
The only thing in his favour is would he have squeezed an extra 1 or 2 points out the Norwich, Palace or Sheff United games. I think this is what will swing it.
I say yes he should have been sacked
1) We failed to beat 2 of our near relegation rivals that bank holiday weekend, would we have managed to overcome the oppenents with the same kind of performances
2) Having shown an interest in another job at a crucial part of the season, could Colin Lee have asked his players to be 100% commited during the run in and really mean it?
3) The team lost its way after Christmas and the Anti Lee faction was steadily growing. After speaking to Plymouth he will have lost the crowd for the last 4 or 5 games.
The only thing in his favour is would he have squeezed an extra 1 or 2 points out the Norwich, Palace or Sheff United games. I think this is what will swing it.
I say yes he should have been sacked
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Stonnall_Saddler wrote:how do you quote?!?!?!??! :? that was about sheffield STUPID comments once again, losing 5 goal to norwich didnt cost us we wernt good enough!!!!!!!!
Whilst it wasn't the only thing, when Merson took over, we were still in the driving seat.
I did say immediately after the Norwich game, that Merson had probably relegated us after his first match. With goal difference being so crucial, his decision to go gung ho at Carrow Road was one of the final nails in the coffin. Later admitted by himself and Neil Emblen.
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Hindsight
The simple answer is no. I was not calling for Lee's head at the time because I was not a card-carrying member of the We Hate Lee Because He Used To Manage Wolves Party. Lee did a good job in the circumstances but not one worthy of Sheffield's fulsome praise. Ray Graydon is Walsall's greatest boss ever. He performed a miracle to get the Saddlers out of the old Division Two in the first instance. That was his finest hour. Chris Nicholl did an excellent job but I cannot help thinking that he inherited a squad capable of securing promotion from the old Division Three. That Kenny Hibbitt did not know what to do with it became clear in the following months. For heaven's sake, how good was Martyn O'Connor at that level? Very good.
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Well i for one didnt agree with the sacking, i think everuone agress it was a very good chance that we would have survived, i think we were too quick to blame lee. it wasnt ALL his fault, some appaling performances by the players along with some ridiculous playing descisions (e.g wackers sending off), i think we forgot that on boxing day we were 6 points off the play offs, thats not the sighn of a bad manger, well, he was our most successful manager of all time.
I think the question to ask is, would lee have been so readily booted out and despised if he hadnt managed the team down the road? Another interesting point is what i asked myself when we were appaling in the first few months of this season, where would we be in this league under colin Lee, i would say play offs at least. Most people in the game talk about giving managers time, maybe we needed one step backward to go 2 steps forward?
And we forget the 'junior' season too readily, i dont think many called for his then if i remember correctly.
But now is Paul Mersons time, lets get behind him, even if we dont agree with (all :) ) of his descisions, i think positvivity is the word for the next few games.
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I think the question to ask is, would lee have been so readily booted out and despised if he hadnt managed the team down the road? Another interesting point is what i asked myself when we were appaling in the first few months of this season, where would we be in this league under colin Lee, i would say play offs at least. Most people in the game talk about giving managers time, maybe we needed one step backward to go 2 steps forward?
And we forget the 'junior' season too readily, i dont think many called for his then if i remember correctly.
But now is Paul Mersons time, lets get behind him, even if we dont agree with (all :) ) of his descisions, i think positvivity is the word for the next few games.
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Percie wrote:I can't see how anyone on the other side of the world can possibly comment.......
I don't see how anyone from Wednesbury can possibly comment :)
We've been over this argument so many times and both sides are totally entrenched in their view. For what it's worth, I think it was ludicrous to sack Lee, and I think the "fans" who turned on him when we were halfway up the league above this one are largely to blame for our current plight. Lee would have kept us up, then probably moved upstairs to a director of football role where he would have been able to recruit players of a vastly higher quality than Joe Broad, Kofi Dakinah, Richard McKinney at al. If we were to have Merson as boss, at least he'd have had a clued-in figure to turn to for help. In many ways, Colin Lee was moving us forward into a new era; the current clueless regime appears to be taking us nowhere but oblivion.
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Totally agree Ian, we are ona dowmward spiral, you know what strikes me the most? the absolute seemingly lack of proffesionalism, it it non-existent. we are looking like a shambles ona nd off the pitch, if we are to keep merson as manager, we need a director of football, because the guy needs help, those two pratts on the sidelines are doin nothing fot this club.
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