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Uddersfield (H) League 1- 06/10/07

Reports and reaction from the 2007-08 season as Walsall finished 12th in League 1
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Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:04 pm

Plastic Hawk wrote:Isn't this all getting a bit silly now?
We're all on the same side, so can't we just enjoy yesterday for what it was rather than scoring silly points off one another?

:? :? :?


Its about to!! :lol:

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:22 pm

philthesaddler wrote:Brilliant performance, one of the best from a Walsall side in a long time.

I personally think Jimmy Mullen has made a massive difference.

Ask yourself these questions;

How often under Money did we play with two, out and out wing men?

How often under Money have we seen Dobson playing just in front of the defence playing simple passes?

How often under Money have we seen overlapping full backs and scintilating wing play?

How often have we seen Money in a suit?

I think Mullen has obviously brought one hell of a lot to the club [that and the addition of two mobile players in the middle of the park], the all round performance today was simply excellent, and couldn't be more of a contrast to the last home game.

Mullen spent the whole game barking out instructions, and Im sorry to say but we werent 'fine' before, because before, even our away performances weren't this professional. Before, we couldn't string two passes together, before, dobson was finding himself trying to play the final ball, before, we had no pace on the wings, before, wing backs didn't overlap, before, midfield men didn't get up in support of the front men.

There were so many facets of todays performance, and that made the big difference, people forget easily how clueless and one dimensional we have been at times under Money, but with an experienced man beside him we're terrific, we now terrorise teams down the wings, we have money posing a threat, we can keep the ball etc etc.

Superb performance, and in my view shows just how much we were missing two things: An experienced coach/assistant, and mobility in midfield.



Biggest pile of **** I've ever heard.

EVER


FACT!


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Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:38 pm

Now come on, to be fair KJC, if Money hadn't been in a suit I think it would have been a much closer game.

Clearly Jimmy Mullen has laid the law down in respect of the sartorial standards expected of his boss.

I suggest we all do that tomorrow at work.

Just march into your boss's office and say "what the flirk are you wearing? I didn't get where I (am today/was at Burnley etc) by wearing tracksuits. Get yourself away home, we want style, flair, wingers, cufflinks, mobility, a glint in your eye, and a smile on your chops. A spring in our step, and joy in our hearts, wake up and smell the Davidoff......Hmmmmmm....Svenlike".

I'm gonna do it anyway, but then again I am self-employed.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:39 pm

Biggest pile of ****?

Really, well funny that because those disagreeing, only seem to be doing so and then posting their typical non-sensical drivel, nothing is being said about the tactics.

That performance yesterday was brilliant because of the way we used the ball, we passed it well, kept it down, kept it well, used the wings, our full backs overlapped brilliantly, thus stretching their wing backs and wide midfielders. That never has been Moneys style of football, that team wasn't a typical money team, with two quick and tricky wide men.

Think back to how we have played for nearly all of Moneys matches? Balls down the channel for Butler to run on to, with our slow wide men struggling to keep up, with weak and slow central midfielders, only sparingly using Ishmel, and struggling to get the ball at his feet when we did.

I'll say it again, Yesterdays match was like chalk and cheese with the majority of Money's matches, the tactics, movement and use of the ball was wholly different. If you can't see that, you're either blind, or stupid. Or both.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:41 pm

philthesaddler wrote:Biggest pile of ****?

Really, well funny that because those disagreeing, only seem to be doing so and then posting their typical non-sensical drivel, nothing is being said about the tactics.

That performance yesterday was brilliant because of the way we used the ball, we passed it well, kept it down, kept it well, used the wings, our full backs overlapped brilliantly, thus stretching their wing backs and wide midfielders. That never has been Moneys style of football, that team wasn't a typical money team, with two quick and tricky wide men.

Think back to how we have played for nearly all of Moneys matches? Balls down the channel for Butler to run on to, with our slow wide men struggling to keep up, with weak and slow central midfielders, only sparingly using Ishmel, and struggling to get the ball at his feet when we did.

I'll say it again, Yesterdays match was like chalk and cheese with the majority of Money's matches, the tactics, movement and use of the ball was wholly different. If you can't see that, you're either blind, or stupid. Or both.


Or.....someone who doesn't get to many away games :wink:

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:43 pm

Geordiesaddler wrote:
philthesaddler wrote:Biggest pile of ****?

Really, well funny that because those disagreeing, only seem to be doing so and then posting their typical non-sensical drivel, nothing is being said about the tactics.

That performance yesterday was brilliant because of the way we used the ball, we passed it well, kept it down, kept it well, used the wings, our full backs overlapped brilliantly, thus stretching their wing backs and wide midfielders. That never has been Moneys style of football, that team wasn't a typical money team, with two quick and tricky wide men.

Think back to how we have played for nearly all of Moneys matches? Balls down the channel for Butler to run on to, with our slow wide men struggling to keep up, with weak and slow central midfielders, only sparingly using Ishmel, and struggling to get the ball at his feet when we did.

I'll say it again, Yesterdays match was like chalk and cheese with the majority of Money's matches, the tactics, movement and use of the ball was wholly different. If you can't see that, you're either blind, or stupid. Or both.


Or.....someone who doesn't get to many away games :wink:


Oh you mean like getting beaten by the brilliant Gillingham [4th from bottom], or perhaps not turning up at Bournemouth [23rd], or perhaps rueing the one missed chance at Leyton orient that might have got us a draw?

Don't talk rubbish.

Assistants make a huge difference to a team. Look at the difference Carlos Queiroz made when he came back to United for his second spell, and look at Liverpools apparent slump since pako whats-his-face has left, then look at how our style of football got worse after Kinsella was snapped up to be an assistant.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:53 pm

And show me one sentance where I've disagreed with you, if you can get your blood-pressure down from 1000 LB/sq"!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

But seriously Phil, as you are obviously someone who would never use the match thread to make petty little points, and your desire today is obviously to use your superlative footballing knowledge talk at great depth about tactics, formations, mobility, second balls, men in the hole, etc.

Do you still want Money to resign or not? :P

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:59 pm

Put it this way, I don't rate him as much as you, or many others. I think tactically he aint all there. It's no coincidence that there are differences between the football we play when we have an assistant, and football we play when money has no assistant. Yesterdays match was completely different not just in personnel, but in the approach to the game and the way we played. I've seen enough of Moneys football over the last 18 months to know his 'style' of football, and yesterday was totally different in many ways I've already highlighted.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:59 pm

Phil , no-one is saying Mullen hasn't made a difference of course he as ,
but who brought him in , why not give DD credit for that .

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:00 pm

DAVEDEAN wrote:Phil , no-one is saying Mullen hasn't made a difference of course he as ,
but who brought him in , why not give DD credit for that .


I don't think Money didn't want an assistant. I don't think that was an issue. I've said before that I think it's more to do with him being allowed one.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:01 pm

Time for the pub, Phil is now reading my thoughts and posting his own far too seriously.

Sorry SJ, same time next week?

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:06 pm

Phil, Mullen was appointed on Friday 28th September... thats right, 9 days ago.

If you are seriously suggesting that our upturn in fortunes is completely down to him, then I'd suggest that he ought to be in the running for the Chelsea job.

Yes, Mullen is a welcome addition to our backroom team and will no doubt prove to be an asset ... but if he is THAT good, why on earth has he been wasting his time in a BMW showroom.
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Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:07 pm

philthesaddler wrote:
DAVEDEAN wrote:Phil , no-one is saying Mullen hasn't made a difference of course he as ,
but who brought him in , why not give DD credit for that .


I don't think Money didn't want an assistant. I don't think that was an issue. I've said before that I think it's more to do with him being allowed one.


Lets all enjoy the fact he's got an assistant and we are now competing at an higher level then were before DD took over.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:50 pm

KJC wrote:Phil, Mullen was appointed on Friday 28th September... thats right, 9 days ago.

If you are seriously suggesting that our upturn in fortunes is completely down to him, then I'd suggest that he ought to be in the running for the Chelsea job.

Yes, Mullen is a welcome addition to our backroom team and will no doubt prove to be an asset ... but if he is THAT good, why on earth has he been wasting his time in a BMW showroom.


Exactly. Phil has come out with some horse manure over the years, but this is rank A1 Shergar quality.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:59 pm

Amazing!

DD is apparently not responsible at all for the 1-0, 3-2 and 4-0 wins.......

And I thought he was the manager! Incredible! :roll:

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Can someone remind me who the manager is?

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:03 pm

Aldridge Steve wrote:Can someone remind me who the manager is?


Someone called DD or something. Strange name :?

Long overdue congrats to Mullin or Mullen or someone for securing the championship last season......

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:32 pm

I'm amazed that with nearly 12000 posts between you, you guys still havn't cottoned on to how this works.

Look its simple.

Philthesaddler is a self-proclaimed football visionary, he has forgotton what us mere supporters could only ever hope to know about football.

It doesn't matter what happens on the pitch, Phil doesn't rate DD ok??

Ok Ok I tell a lie It does mater If something bad happens then obviously its all down to DD, because remember Phil doesn't rate him.

But if something good happens, eg winning a championship for the first time in 45 years, geting promoted at the first attempt, winning games in style at the higher level, signing fantastic players etc etc then we have to seek out some circumstancial variable to attribute this to, because remember......Phil doesn't rate DD.

Now do you follow??

Also watch out for the ocassional wild-card, as now and again Phil will post something like "we should have signed Spencer Weir Daley", this is just "a joke". Now you might think of a joke as being like a short funny story that makes people laugh, it isn't ok?

Well not on here anyway.

I havn't quite worked out what it is mind, a bit like the meaning of life, but I know what it isn't. And anyhow come the glorious day Phil will enlighten us all so there's actually no need for anyone else to have an opinion about anything.

Hope that helps.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 3:51 pm

Geordie-- now that what I call a premature departure :wink:

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:50 pm

latviancheese wrote:BONSER OUT. CHEAP SIGNINGS. WE;RE GOING DOWN. Money Out.


DOOOOOM DOOOM DOOOM DOOOOOOOOOM.




well someones gonna do it, may aswell be me.



*personally i think it's just like watching Brazil*


I agree. I love WFC, and at the same time I don't care for Bonser. IMO whatever any manager acheives here is inspite of Bonser and not because of him. A good run and Bonser and STM are being hailed as living saints :roll: Credit where credit's due??? RM every time.

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:05 pm

Can I be the first to say that bringing in Mullen is a BIG mistake.

It will all end in tears, and I'll remind you all about it when it does - maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

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WarsawPact wrote:Can I be the first to say that bringing in Mullen is a BIG mistake.

It will all end in tears, and I'll remind you all about it when it does - maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.


So, is that the fifteenth or sixteenth version of MOSOC? :wink:

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DAVEDEAN wrote:
philthesaddler wrote:
DAVEDEAN wrote:Phil , no-one is saying Mullen hasn't made a difference of course he as ,
but who brought him in , why not give DD credit for that .


I don't think Money didn't want an assistant. I don't think that was an issue. I've said before that I think it's more to do with him being allowed one.


Lets all enjoy the fact he's got an assistant and we are now competing at an higher level then were before DD took over.


Sounds fair enough to me Dave

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Geordiesaddler wrote:I'm amazed that with nearly 12000 posts between you, you guys still havn't cottoned on to how this works.

Look its simple.

Philthesaddler is a self-proclaimed football visionary, he has forgotton what us mere supporters could only ever hope to know about football.

It doesn't matter what happens on the pitch, Phil doesn't rate DD ok??

Ok Ok I tell a lie It does mater If something bad happens then obviously its all down to DD, because remember Phil doesn't rate him.

But if something good happens, eg winning a championship for the first time in 45 years, geting promoted at the first attempt, winning games in style at the higher level, signing fantastic players etc etc then we have to seek out some circumstancial variable to attribute this to, because remember......Phil doesn't rate DD.

Now do you follow??

Also watch out for the ocassional wild-card, as now and again Phil will post something like "we should have signed Spencer Weir Daley", this is just "a joke". Now you might think of a joke as being like a short funny story that makes people laugh, it isn't ok?

Well not on here anyway.

I havn't quite worked out what it is mind, a bit like the meaning of life, but I know what it isn't. And anyhow come the glorious day Phil will enlighten us all so there's actually no need for anyone else to have an opinion about anything.

Hope that helps.


Right, I think I get it now.

Most enlightening, thanks Geordie ! :lol:

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:21 pm

Geordiesaddler wrote:The lack of moaning on here is therefore incredibly worrying.

So come on let's hear it before its too late....

Possible topics of conversation include:

1) Bonser's pension fund.
2) STM's poor summer signings
3) DD's negativity.
4) Ismel?? What hope has he got of playing when he only started 2 gamhes last season?
5) You win nothing with kids/old players.
6) so and so is finished. (Roper, Wrack, Hall, Mooney, etc) delete as appropriate.
7) The club shop
8) the ticket office
9) the poor quality replica kit.
10) Dobson is a centre-half.
11) The catch all "sort it out so and so" thread (Money/Bonser/Walsall FC/) delete as appropriate.
12) DD critisises fans.
13) Critisised fans reaction forum.
14) Ex-player blasts club
15) The exciting strikefore lie thread.
16) Ex-player doesn't blast club, but surely there must be more to it thread.
17) Ex-player praises club, but club didn't publically wish him well conspiracy theory.
18) Pension fund revisited, Tommy Mooney OAF (Old age footballer).
19) Jimmy Mullen, Hednesford to Real Madrid in 3 easy steps.
and finally if all else fails

20) Just start a thread about Allen Picken.

There, that should keep things going for a few days.


Glad I can still berate the club for building that stupid hotel with Fryatt's transfer fee. Cheers.
:D

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:29 pm

I was hungry yesterday and fancied chips with my Balti pie. It was a big mistake by Boner 10 years ago to stop selling them, presumably so that he could buy another helicopter.

Does this count as a whine?

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WarsawPact wrote:Can I be the first to say that bringing in Mullen is a BIG mistake.

It will all end in tears, and I'll remind you all about it when it does - maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.


What makes you say that :?:

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:31 pm

KJC wrote:Phil, Mullen was appointed on Friday 28th September... thats right, 9 days ago.

If you are seriously suggesting that our upturn in fortunes is completely down to him, then I'd suggest that he ought to be in the running for the Chelsea job.

Yes, Mullen is a welcome addition to our backroom team and will no doubt prove to be an asset ... but if he is THAT good, why on earth has he been wasting his time in a BMW showroom.


I was gonna say pretty much the same myself. Great to have an assistant for Dicky, but I'm pretty sure DD is still the man in charge and making the ultimate decisions over players, team, formation etc, no matter how much Mullen 'suggests' to him.

Looking forward to Friday night immensely. Hope Geordie is there and then we can all chant, "Geordie, give us a wave, Geordie Geordie, give us a wave", closely followed by "there's only oooooooooone Phil the Saddler, oooooooooooone Phil the Saddler, moaning along, claiming all has gone wrong, whilst we're living in a Dicky Doshy land"!! :lol:

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Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:35 pm

Jolly Johnny wrote:
KJC wrote:Phil, Mullen was appointed on Friday 28th September... thats right, 9 days ago.

If you are seriously suggesting that our upturn in fortunes is completely down to him, then I'd suggest that he ought to be in the running for the Chelsea job.

Yes, Mullen is a welcome addition to our backroom team and will no doubt prove to be an asset ... but if he is THAT good, why on earth has he been wasting his time in a BMW showroom.


I was gonna say pretty much the same myself. Great to have an assistant for Dicky, but I'm pretty sure DD is still the man in charge and making the ultimate decisions over players, team, formation etc, no matter how much Mullen 'suggests' to him.

Looking forward to Friday night immensely. Hope Geordie is there and then we can all chant, "Geordie, give us a wave, Geordie Geordie, give us a wave", closely followed by "there's only oooooooooone Phil the Saddler, oooooooooooone Phil the Saddler, moaning along, claiming all has gone wrong, whilst we're living in a Dicky Doshy land"!! :lol:


Quality, will get that going on friday night :D

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WarsawPact wrote:Can I be the first to say that bringing in Mullen is a BIG mistake.

It will all end in tears, and I'll remind you all about it when it does - maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.


What makes you say that :?:



A deep-seated insecurity causing me to manufacture situations that will lead to the approval of my peer group, coupled with a psychotic hate of the Walsall FC 'establishment'.

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