SaigonSaddler wrote:reedswood sadler wrote:Exile wrote:More than a year since their Pyrrhic victory and still no closer to a plan, as the government and their much-vaunted Brexit team bumble along from one catastrophe to the next. Remind me, wasn’t it all supposed to be unicorns and money trees? Hard borders and white Britons? Funds for the NHS and cheap German cars?
What’s going on? Could it be that they haven’t a clue?
What's going on Exile is nobody knows what it will be it could end up with all of the above (well done with throwing the usual racist bit in ) or it could end up we are all doomed as a 3rd world country asking for handouts from the countries we help.
The government negotiations are useless with no idea I agree but all the " predictions " on both sides mean nothing as Manchester keeps saying we have not left yet so until that day nobody on either side knows.
No, but even the most hardened Leave protagonist accepts that it's been damaging thus far. The stategy is either to state that 'it's worth it' or play up the continued existence of inward investment as if this is proof of things being brilliant. It isn't.
You've also alluded to the the possibility Britain becoming a 'third world country'. No-one at any time has ever suggested this.
We may all be affected materially as the economy suffers for a period of time until the stupid decision is reversed by a younger generation.
This may be 20 or more years of totally unnecessary economic hurt, for which YOU will pay handsomely in reduced services, higher tax and a lower pension.
One of the biggest issues is going to be who will do all the work? We will potentially have a massive workforce deficit issue. At the lower end of the employment spectrum (although not exclusively as many EU nationals have high skilled and well paid jobs), is a huge part of our economy that is going to struggle. People who have bleated on about the perceived downside to immigration may end up with few people willing to tend to their social care needs, to nurse them in hospitals, to pick our food, to distribute goods across the country and, of course, to clean our offices, hotels, deliver our online shopping orders to our homes, and serve us our daily flat whites and wash our cars!. :D
The view from Daily Mail online (when immigration and Brexit is debated ) is that miraculously the 1.4 million unemployed (which is, by most measures, "full employment") will fill any gaps created and if that fails, lazy arsed Brits should just be compelled to do the work.
It really hasn't been thought through by Brexiteers, the extent to which our economy and society, depends on (and arguably thrives) on migrant labour, the vast majority of which put the 1.4 M to shame with their work ethic and attitude to providing for themselves.
This will not be "project fear" it will be "project reality" and those denouncing the needs of employers should give their heads a wobble as we all, to some extent do and will depend on migrant labour.