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How will you vote?

Poll ended at Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:11 am

Conservative
20
36%
Labour
28
51%
Liberal
4
7%
UKIP
0
No votes
SNP
1
2%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Monster Raving Loony
0
No votes
Independent
1
2%
Stafflers
1
2%
 
Total votes : 55
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Re: Cast your vote........

Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:02 pm

SaigonSaddler wrote:
Cowshed wrote:Corbyn is claiming that he is hitting the big companies to pay for social justice

Working class people have started pensions and after they have worked all week they and their families have gone without to put something aside for retirement. Corbyns taxes will affect these. Working class people not big companies see the ifs report posted by saddla on the other thread

Now if this affects you then you may accept that your retirement is not as safe as you thought but at least you are contributing to social justice. Except that that isn't the case because Corbyn is using your money to give to the middle classes and millionaires. He is handing them over 36000 of your money for each child going to uni , he is paying them pensions above inflation and giving a fuel allowance that they do not need.

Wolf in sheeps clothing
Gives the impression he is taking from the rich only this is Not the case
He is giving your money to the middle classes
The working classes are Corbyns money tree


Nonsense.

You clearly haven't read the manifesto then as there are numerous ways in which he plans to assist the marginalised and the poor while also improving services for all.


Correct Mr Cowshed, unfortunately Saigon is beating a lonely path, he's blindly in love with Jeza :D

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Re: Cast your vote........

Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:39 pm

Cully wrote:
SaigonSaddler wrote:
Cowshed wrote:Corbyn is claiming that he is hitting the big companies to pay for social justice

Working class people have started pensions and after they have worked all week they and their families have gone without to put something aside for retirement. Corbyns taxes will affect these. Working class people not big companies see the ifs report posted by saddla on the other thread

Now if this affects you then you may accept that your retirement is not as safe as you thought but at least you are contributing to social justice. Except that that isn't the case because Corbyn is using your money to give to the middle classes and millionaires. He is handing them over 36000 of your money for each child going to uni , he is paying them pensions above inflation and giving a fuel allowance that they do not need.

Wolf in sheeps clothing
Gives the impression he is taking from the rich only this is Not the case
He is giving your money to the middle classes
The working classes are Corbyns money tree


Nonsense.

You clearly haven't read the manifesto then as there are numerous ways in which he plans to assist the marginalised and the poor while also improving services for all.


Correct Mr Cowshed, unfortunately Saigon is beating a lonely path


Well, me and the growing number of people deciding to vote Labour, as even the most blue tinged polls confirm.

Seems better than demanding nuclear first strikes. :oops: :oops:
I can just imagine the conversations ... well we've got them so ... one way to stop moaning nurses. :idea:

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Re: Cast your vote........

Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:16 pm

SaigonSaddler wrote:
Cully wrote:
SaigonSaddler wrote:
Cowshed wrote:Corbyn is claiming that he is hitting the big companies to pay for social justice

Working class people have started pensions and after they have worked all week they and their families have gone without to put something aside for retirement. Corbyns taxes will affect these. Working class people not big companies see the ifs report posted by saddla on the other thread

Now if this affects you then you may accept that your retirement is not as safe as you thought but at least you are contributing to social justice. Except that that isn't the case because Corbyn is using your money to give to the middle classes and millionaires. He is handing them over 36000 of your money for each child going to uni , he is paying them pensions above inflation and giving a fuel allowance that they do not need.

Wolf in sheeps clothing
Gives the impression he is taking from the rich only this is Not the case
He is giving your money to the middle classes
The working classes are Corbyns money tree


Nonsense.

You clearly haven't read the manifesto then as there are numerous ways in which he plans to assist the marginalised and the poor while also improving services for all.


Correct Mr Cowshed, unfortunately Saigon is beating a lonely path


Well, me and the growing number of people deciding to vote Labour, as even the most blue tinged polls confirm.

Seems better than demanding nuclear first strikes. :oops: :oops:
I can just imagine the conversations ... well we've got them so ... one way to stop moaning nurses. :idea:


Talking of the moaners

If santacorbyn ,Rudolph The RED nosed O'Connell , abbot and the dwarf get in there is no further to the left to go

Where does this leave public services union leader mcluskey

I don't think they have thought this through

Is the end of the drunk socialist worker seller in new st just like brexit killed ukip?

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Re: Cast your vote........

Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:39 pm

SaigonSaddler wrote:
Cully wrote:
SaigonSaddler wrote:
Cowshed wrote:Corbyn is claiming that he is hitting the big companies to pay for social justice

Working class people have started pensions and after they have worked all week they and their families have gone without to put something aside for retirement. Corbyns taxes will affect these. Working class people not big companies see the ifs report posted by saddla on the other thread

Now if this affects you then you may accept that your retirement is not as safe as you thought but at least you are contributing to social justice. Except that that isn't the case because Corbyn is using your money to give to the middle classes and millionaires. He is handing them over 36000 of your money for each child going to uni , he is paying them pensions above inflation and giving a fuel allowance that they do not need.

Wolf in sheeps clothing
Gives the impression he is taking from the rich only this is Not the case
He is giving your money to the middle classes
The working classes are Corbyns money tree


Nonsense.

You clearly haven't read the manifesto then as there are numerous ways in which he plans to assist the marginalised and the poor while also improving services for all.


Correct Mr Cowshed, unfortunately Saigon is beating a lonely path


Well, me and the growing number of people deciding to vote Labour, as even the most blue tinged polls confirm.

Seems better than demanding nuclear first strikes. :oops: :oops:
I can just imagine the conversations ... well we've got them so ... one way to stop moaning nurses. :idea:


Well, Corbyn has got you and your growing numbers of potential voters easily fooled with a catalogue of fantastic promises and a virtual persona that masks his true personality. Surprising really considering all the information about him is in the public domain :roll: :roll: he is not remotely a decent man, he allied with the IRA when it was blowing up civilians, men, women and children, he was not, as he now claims very mendaciously, just talking to terrorists but he wanted them to win. He's allied with Putins Russia and never once criticised the way that Putin has suppressed the democratic movement or the way Iran persecutes gays or women and ethnic minorities he just goes along with them because they are fundamentally anti western. I mentioned Iran because he revealed recently that he was paid £20,000 to appear on the state propaganda channel. The Iranian regime executes gay people, democracy activists, Kurds, and orders the rape of female prisoners. But Corbyn is happy to take their money and aid their propaganda campaign.
I don't think people should need reminding of the following but I will, that he has praised and supported Raed Salah, an Islamist who has been accused of spreading the Blood Libel (an old antisemitic conspiracy that Jews use the blood of gentile children to make their bread). Salah has also been charged with inciting racial hatred and violence, and has claimed the Jews were behind 9/11. Corbyn has said: ‘Salah is a very honoured citizen’, ‘Salah’s is a voice that must be heard’, ‘Salah is far from a dangerous man’, and ‘I look forward to giving you tea on the terrace because you deserve it!’. Corbyn invited Hamas and Hizbollah to Parliament and called them his ‘friends’. Bear in mind that Hamas’s Charter is explicitly genocidal – it makes it clear its supporters want to kill Jews and repeats Nazi conspiracy theories. Their founding Charter also rules out any peaceful solution to the Israeli-Palestine problem. It says:
Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement… There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through jihad.
The man is completely immoral so good luck to you as you mark your cross, no doubt content that Corbyn and his team represents your vision of an 'honest and decent man'. McDonnell, Abbott, Watson and Raynor what an impressive line up behind your man, you must be in heaven.

Breaking news..................Labour are now promising to cut VAT as well, it can only be a matter of time before my free unicorn wish comes true..

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Re: Cast your vote........

Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:39 pm

Cully wrote:
SaigonSaddler wrote:
Cully wrote:
SaigonSaddler wrote:
Cowshed wrote:Corbyn is claiming that he is hitting the big companies to pay for social justice

Working class people have started pensions and after they have worked all week they and their families have gone without to put something aside for retirement. Corbyns taxes will affect these. Working class people not big companies see the ifs report posted by saddla on the other thread

Now if this affects you then you may accept that your retirement is not as safe as you thought but at least you are contributing to social justice. Except that that isn't the case because Corbyn is using your money to give to the middle classes and millionaires. He is handing them over 36000 of your money for each child going to uni , he is paying them pensions above inflation and giving a fuel allowance that they do not need.

Wolf in sheeps clothing
Gives the impression he is taking from the rich only this is Not the case
He is giving your money to the middle classes
The working classes are Corbyns money tree


Nonsense.

You clearly haven't read the manifesto then as there are numerous ways in which he plans to assist the marginalised and the poor while also improving services for all.


Correct Mr Cowshed, unfortunately Saigon is beating a lonely path


Well, me and the growing number of people deciding to vote Labour, as even the most blue tinged polls confirm.

Seems better than demanding nuclear first strikes. :oops: :oops:
I can just imagine the conversations ... well we've got them so ... one way to stop moaning nurses. :idea:


Well, Corbyn has got you ...


Got to you, more like. :D

Your wild accusations look like reject sweepings from the Daily Mail floor.

The only surprise is that you haven't accused him of plotting 9/11. :roll: :wink:

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Re: Cast your vote........

Sun Jun 04, 2017 8:01 pm

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Re: Cast your vote........

Sun Jun 04, 2017 10:51 pm

Cully - just out of interest, have you ever posted ANYTHING that is even mildly critical of Conservative politicians or a Conservative government? Just wondering, that's all.

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Re: Cast your vote........

Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:50 pm

Pedagogue wrote:Cully - just out of interest, have you ever posted ANYTHING that is even mildly critical of Conservative politicians or a Conservative government? Just wondering, that's all.


Erm?.....................not sure, I think I criticised David Cameron once for wearing a red tie and of course I was very unhappy at Teresa's choice of shoes the other day, I think I even mentioned it to Mrs Cully who agreed that they looked very old fashioned!

Anyway, you and the other members of your tribe do a very good job of criticising the Conservatives and I feel my role on this board is to provide some balance and to inform those in denial of the facts :D

ps. No one takes this board seriously ...............do they?

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Re: Cast your vote........

Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:27 am

Ancient Moaner wrote:Batley (the next town) High school had 17 white pupils.
Regrettably they 'take over'. Bolton Dobble area has endured a similar fate. Muslims don't integrate, they 'acquire' areas and take over'.


Sorry mate, I'm struggling to follow your points here. I'm not having a go, I genuinely don't understand.

Some Asians like to live by other Asians and the community that brings, and you think this shouldn't be allowed because.... Some of them are mean to white people?
You think there should be some sort of restraining order so only a certain amount can live in a certain radius forcing them to integrate with white people?

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Re: Cast your vote........

Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:26 am

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Ancient Moaner wrote:Batley (the next town) High school had 17 white pupils.
Regrettably they 'take over'. Bolton Dobble area has endured a similar fate. Muslims don't integrate, they 'acquire' areas and take over'.


Sorry mate, I'm struggling to follow your points here. I'm not having a go, I genuinely don't understand.

Some Asians like to live by other Asians and the community that brings, and you think this shouldn't be allowed because.... Some of them are mean to white people?
You think there should be some sort of restraining order so only a certain amount can live in a certain radius forcing them to integrate with white people?


I have no answer, lets face it, they don't possess the same' ideals' regarding living conditions . When we first moved in to Dewsbury (whata mistaka to make!) our lovely little cul de sac was a treasure, all white folk of course, well kept gardens, Sunday mornings car cleaning and grass cutting, just like any other British homestead. However, after a couple of years some Asians moved in, then more, then more, then more, and our beautiful little cul de sac resembled some war torn Middle Eastern territory. The kids ran wild, (did you know that the males are treated like gods, and can do whatever they like and of course they obviously expect, with their ultimate freedom, to treat us white folk with utter contempt), My beautifully kept garden was trampled into mud, my trees were torn down, fences destroyed, on one occasion a garden ornament was posted through our letter box! When we complained, WE were the bad guys, the police did nothing, (as usual), so as not to upset or cause racial tensions.
Our house lost £30K in value over a two year period (compared to houses exactly the same built in 'white' Ossett up the road).
We cut our losses and luckily escaped, now, the bleeding heart liberals on here will accuse me of racism, fair enough, if the above type of living is acceptable, and that's what people think, that's their opinion, I'm just telling it like it is as an example of how we are losing our grip on 'our own' way of life.

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Re: Cast your vote........

Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:03 am

It's not racism AM, it's a point of view

But some people don't like opinions

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Re: Cast your vote........

Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:20 am

Out of interest, what do you both think racism is?

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Re: Cast your vote........

Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:26 am

yoda wrote:Out of interest, what do you both think racism is?


Not this. This is xenophobia which is just as daft.

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Re: Cast your vote........

Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:43 am

yoda wrote:Out of interest, what do you both think racism is?


Racism in the UK is only if you are white and say something or disagree with something non white.
It is not hindu and muslims hating each other.
It is not asians combining together to hate afro carabians .
It is not all these then combining to hate poles and eastern europeans.
I saw this everyday when I was at work in the bus industry sorry AM you are white therfore you are a racist and must not say anything about asians or islam

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Re: Cast your vote........

Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:58 am

I don't think of myself as a racist, but I can identify with what AM is saying, he would have said the same if it had been a group of travellers that had done the same, or if it had been a bad white family, but because he has said it about Asian family's he is thought of as a racist? And is jumped upon by certain posters. And there in lies the problem that exists in this country, and typifies liberal minded white British peoples attitudes, which in turn leads to us not being able to defend ourselves for fear of retribution from our piers :| we may as well all pack up and and leave it to them, and let's see who is the first to moan about what happened to true old fashioned British values :|

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Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:37 am

chunkster wrote:I don't think of myself as a racist, but I can identify with what AM is saying, he would have said the same if it had been a group of travellers that had done the same, or if it had been a bad white family, but because he has said it about Asian family's he is thought of as a racist? And is jumped upon by certain posters. And there in lies the problem that exists in this country, and typifies liberal minded white British peoples attitudes, which in turn leads to us not being able to defend ourselves for fear of retribution from our piers :| we may as well all pack up and and leave it to them, and let's see who is the first to moan about what happened to true old fashioned British values :|



Chunkster agree with everything you said and I do not think that AM is a racist my point was that if you do not want to bury your head in the sand and ignore what is going on and if you are white and worse if you are old like AM and me you a racist in the eyes of the do gooders and Islam can do no wrong lovers.
If AM was black and saying same things about whites he would be a hero on here.

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Re: Cast your vote........

Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:09 pm

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chunkster wrote:I don't think of myself as a racist, but I can identify with what AM is saying, he would have said the same if it had been a group of travellers that had done the same, or if it had been a bad white family, but because he has said it about Asian family's he is thought of as a racist? And is jumped upon by certain posters. And there in lies the problem that exists in this country, and typifies liberal minded white British peoples attitudes, which in turn leads to us not being able to defend ourselves for fear of retribution from our piers :| we may as well all pack up and and leave it to them, and let's see who is the first to moan about what happened to true old fashioned British values :|



Chunkster agree with everything you said and I do not think that AM is a racist my point was that if you do not want to bury your head in the sand and ignore what is going on and if you are white and worse if you are old like AM and me you a racist in the eyes of the do gooders and Islam can do no wrong lovers.
If AM was black and saying same things about whites he would be a hero on here.
true mate. Anyone is welcome here, from anywhere in the world, and from any religion, but bare in mind, this is a mostly Christian country, with Christian values. Not an annex of Islam. I would respect another countries values if I were living there, not try to change them.

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Re: Cast your vote........

Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:52 pm

https://youtu.be/cAoXgZLRee0

classic, this woman talks so much sense, and it speaks volumes

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Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:12 am

chunkster wrote:https://youtu.be/cAoXgZLRee0

classic, this woman talks so much sense, and it speaks volumes

Arch-conservative and anti-Muslim crusader speaks out against Muslims with the usual rhetoric. Hardly a fair and accurate summary, but I understand why it would be popular amongst right wingers with border issues.

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Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:15 am

Discharged from hospital and straight down the polling station.
Done my bit! :mrgreen:

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Re: Cast your vote........

Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:22 pm

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chunkster wrote:https://youtu.be/cAoXgZLRee0

classic, this woman talks so much sense, and it speaks volumes

Arch-conservative and anti-Muslim crusader speaks out against Muslims with the usual rhetoric. Hardly a fair and accurate summary, but I understand why it would be popular amongst right wingers with border issues.

:lol: from the bloke who doesn't have to suffer it :mrgreen:

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Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:23 pm

saddla wrote:Discharged from hospital and straight down the polling station.
Done my bit! :mrgreen:

Good to see you out and about saddla :wink:

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Re: Cast your vote........

Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:47 pm

I voted in the referendum despite finding both arguments unconvincing.Now, I just can't bring myself to vote. I hate the Tories, no more so than my Putinite ( and Saudi friend) local MP. But I can't bring myself to vote for a party whose membership is dominated by the Trotskyites and Useful Idiots of Momentum, nor for a party desperate enough to elect a fundamentalist George Formby joke as leader. I suppose I could go and "spoil" my paper.

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Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:49 pm

shrewsbury saddler wrote:I voted in the referendum despite finding both arguments unconvincing.Now, I just can't bring myself to vote. I hate the Tories, no more so than my Putinite ( and Saudi friend) local MP. But I can't bring myself to vote for a party whose membership is dominated by the Trotskyites and Useful Idiots of Momentum, nor for a party desperate enough to elect a fundamentalist George Formby joke as leader. I suppose I could go and "spoil" my paper.


A choice being faced by many people but do use your vote even if it is for monster raving looney party.

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Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:56 pm

shrewsbury saddler wrote:I voted in the referendum despite finding both arguments unconvincing.Now, I just can't bring myself to vote. I hate the Tories, no more so than my Putinite ( and Saudi friend) local MP. But I can't bring myself to vote for a party whose membership is dominated by the Trotskyites and Useful Idiots of Momentum, nor for a party desperate enough to elect a fundamentalist George Formby joke as leader. I suppose I could go and "spoil" my paper.


Frank Maguire the Irish Republican MP famously attended the House of Commons to 'abstain in person' when the Callaghan government was brought down in a vote of confidence by a single vote in 1979 so perhaps like him you should go and 'abstain in person' & spoil your ballot if there is no-one you feel that you can vote for.
I have just driven back from Kendal so we can vote. Sadly having always lived in' safe seats' under our First Past the Post system my vote won't, as in every General Election I have voted in since 1970, make any difference.

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Re: Cast your vote........

Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:41 pm

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shrewsbury saddler wrote:I voted in the referendum despite finding both arguments unconvincing.Now, I just can't bring myself to vote. I hate the Tories, no more so than my Putinite ( and Saudi friend) local MP. But I can't bring myself to vote for a party whose membership is dominated by the Trotskyites and Useful Idiots of Momentum, nor for a party desperate enough to elect a fundamentalist George Formby joke as leader. I suppose I could go and "spoil" my paper.


Frank Maguire the Irish Republican MP famously attended the House of Commons to 'abstain in person' when the Callaghan government was brought down in a vote of confidence by a single vote in 1979 so perhaps like him you should go and 'abstain in person' & spoil your ballot if there is no-one you feel that you can vote for.
I have just driven back from Kendal so we can vote. Sadly having always lived in' safe seats' under our First Past the Post system my vote won't, as in every General Election I have voted in since 1970, make any difference.

Have voted 'none.' At least this way no one can accuse me of apathy.

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Re: Cast your vote........

Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:44 pm

If the polls are correct Staffler's is going to lose his deposit again.I don't know why he bothers.

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Thu Jun 08, 2017 5:18 pm

NEWPORT SADDLERS DAD wrote:If the polls are correct Staffler's is going to lose his deposit again.I don't know why he bothers.


He's got 1 vote. I didn't realise he still visited UTS :)

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Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:29 am

tinned wrote:
NEWPORT SADDLERS DAD wrote:If the polls are correct Staffler's is going to lose his deposit again.I don't know why he bothers.


He's got 1 vote. I didn't realise he still visited UTS :)


Even Mr Buckethead got more :D

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