swampysaddler wrote:scott_powell wrote:Swamps, if these religious doctrines were consistent and peaceful I would have no issue, even if people were using these holy books for bad. Unfortunately, these holy books DO tell you to kill non believers. It is encouranged and some idiots take it literally (Well, why shouldn't they? They believe after all!). The Quran has over 500 quotes which encourage followers to kill in the name of Muhammad. Yes, I know 99.99% of Muslims are peaceful, but the minority will always ruin it for the majority by following these ridiculous fairy tales.
If a million people had guns in the UK and one tosser decides to kill 30 school kids in a mass shooting, guns would banned ... same principle. The minority always prevail in these situations and for society to effectively move forward you need to cut certain things out.
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority"
Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
Quran (9:14) - "Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people."
Theres just 3 from the Quran.
Shall I go through the many disgusting acts in the bible now? :lol:
I agree 100% Scott.
Religion has a lot to answer for.
But we can't tar all of them with one brush.
I will be honest I hate anything religious, the only time I go to church is for funerals and weddings.
I know 99% of Muslims are peaceful and I would never act different towards a Muslim or any other believer of a specific religion. I would only air my views on religion if it's brought up in conversation. My issues are with the fundamentals of religion as a whole and the naivety of believing in a Deity.
These issues range from arguments from ignorance to extremism.
My favourite one is -
Idiot - "The world is too complex to be natural. There must be a creator. Such complexity cannot come from nothing" ...
Me, also an idiot - "Well, if god were able to create such a complex world, surely he would have to be more complex than what he's creating in the first place to be able to create it? If so, by your definition, he MUST have been created too! So who created him?"
Idiot - "He's always there though"
Me, also an idiot - "Well, why couldn't the universe always have been there?"
Idiot - "Because it must have been created. Something can't come from nothing"
Me, also an idiot - "But, again by your definition, surely god can't come from nothing?"
Idiot - "But he's god"
ETC ETC ETC
.... I've had these conversations with many Christians and it's like pissing against the wind. They are so ignorant when faced with simple logic. I am convinced we would advance far quicker as a society without religion. Makes me loff when Christians laugh at people who follow Scientology because of how ridiculous it is ... Take a look in the mirror with your outdated pile of dogshite