kshammer wrote:Wah, wah, wah...
I love UTS. :)
Can ya tell the season's started? All the crazies are back off holibobs. Well, most of 'em. :mrgreen:
Best ones are the ones who think everything's directed at them :wink:
kshammer wrote:Wah, wah, wah...
I love UTS. :)
MAsaddler wrote:Erm,, back to the subject of the match. I went to the game today and i from this perfomance i will be putting in leave to get to the bradford match. The wife can do one, plymouth is a gash place to live.
I cant offer much difference in the opinions given and match reports. One thing i noticed was a disticint lack of a RM / Right winger.. the only occation was when benning swaped over and left the left side open with no LM. Couldnt really understand the formation this game. Overall in attack we look much stronger than last season, Grimes in paticular looks class, and overall the only player i would drop would be Baxendale.
I feel we currently we have better options which provide more creativity and defensive security which Bax isnt doing at the moment. Please put Clifford in his place for the next match... give Bax a chance to review his mentality and come back stronger. He is a talent, but an underperforming talent.
Registered Saddler wrote:Walsall fans, unbelievable. Typical histrionics one game into the season.
Manset is some kind of Henry/Ibrahimovic/Shearer figure because of a decent hour against Leicester in a friendly?! Ridiculous. Ask Coventry fans if he's any good. Ask Carlisle fans if he's any good. If he doesn't want to sign on our terms, why kowtow to him? Who is he? What's he achieved that makes him the great saviour of our season?
And yet Chambers - excellent at central defence against Leyton Orient & Posh last season and by all accounts good again today - will be a liability in the long run because he's no Andy Butler. What?!? I'd like to remind you that Port Vale scored four times in three games against us last season, all of them Butler played in. Two of the goals were his fault.
While I wasn't there today, I'd bet a sizeable amount that we played a 4-4-2 diamond formation with Grimes and Bradshaw up front (which is why Grimes wasn't covering the right flank). Then Sawyers in behind and the other three in deeper midfield positions. Benning, as a natural left-back, offered cover on the left but Bax didn't on the right which was why O'Connor (who most Walsall fans seemed to think would be playing central defence - again, what?!?) was exposed at right-back. That's the formation we've played in preseason, apart from the occasional experiment with three central defenders. I'd be highly surprised if we signed Grimes to throw out on the right wing, especially when Smith described him as one of the best finishers he'd ever seen.
Happy with a point, shame it wasn't three. I look forward to our customary early exit from the League Cup on Tuesday.
ToeJoe Jnr wrote:Registered Saddler wrote:While I wasn't there today, I'd bet a sizeable amount that we played a 4-4-2 diamond formation with Grimes and Bradshaw up front (which is why Grimes wasn't covering the right flank). Then Sawyers in behind and the other three in deeper midfield positions. Benning, as a natural left-back, offered cover on the left but Bax didn't on the right which was why O'Connor (who most Walsall fans seemed to think would be playing central defence - again, what?!?) was exposed at right-back. That's the formation we've played in preseason, apart from the occasional experiment with three central defenders. I'd be highly surprised if we signed Grimes to throw out on the right wing, especially when Smith described him as one of the best finishers he'd ever seen.
By sizeable, how much are we talking, as I was there and we didn't play that formation. Baxendale was in the middle (And given we have Mantom and Clufford is likely to be warming the bench soon) while Grimes was indeed on the right.
Registered Saddler wrote:ToeJoe Jnr wrote:Registered Saddler wrote:While I wasn't there today, I'd bet a sizeable amount that we played a 4-4-2 diamond formation with Grimes and Bradshaw up front (which is why Grimes wasn't covering the right flank). Then Sawyers in behind and the other three in deeper midfield positions. Benning, as a natural left-back, offered cover on the left but Bax didn't on the right which was why O'Connor (who most Walsall fans seemed to think would be playing central defence - again, what?!?) was exposed at right-back. That's the formation we've played in preseason, apart from the occasional experiment with three central defenders. I'd be highly surprised if we signed Grimes to throw out on the right wing, especially when Smith described him as one of the best finishers he'd ever seen.
By sizeable, how much are we talking, as I was there and we didn't play that formation. Baxendale was in the middle (And given we have Mantom and Clufford is likely to be warming the bench soon) while Grimes was indeed on the right.
Ooh, loads. Like £10 or something. Just going on what happened in preseason, the fact that Grimes isn't a winger, and the number of posts saying how open the right wing was throughout the game. Also, their goal came from our right - on the highlights there's no Grimes to be seen, and he set up our goal from an inside left position. I expect Baxendale was meant to be the one covering the flank from the central three (Benning - Chambers - Baxendale), but Bax never tracks back.
WFC_Rob wrote: Grimes definitely wasn't playing up front and we definitely didn't play 4-4-2. It was basically the same system we were used to seeing last season, but with Baxendale rather than Mantom alongside Chambers, and Grimes, Sawyers and Benning behind Bradshaw.
WFC_Rob wrote:Registered Saddler wrote:ToeJoe Jnr wrote:Registered Saddler wrote:While I wasn't there today, I'd bet a sizeable amount that we played a 4-4-2 diamond formation with Grimes and Bradshaw up front (which is why Grimes wasn't covering the right flank). Then Sawyers in behind and the other three in deeper midfield positions. Benning, as a natural left-back, offered cover on the left but Bax didn't on the right which was why O'Connor (who most Walsall fans seemed to think would be playing central defence - again, what?!?) was exposed at right-back. That's the formation we've played in preseason, apart from the occasional experiment with three central defenders. I'd be highly surprised if we signed Grimes to throw out on the right wing, especially when Smith described him as one of the best finishers he'd ever seen.
By sizeable, how much are we talking, as I was there and we didn't play that formation. Baxendale was in the middle (And given we have Mantom and Clufford is likely to be warming the bench soon) while Grimes was indeed on the right.
Ooh, loads. Like £10 or something. Just going on what happened in preseason, the fact that Grimes isn't a winger, and the number of posts saying how open the right wing was throughout the game. Also, their goal came from our right - on the highlights there's no Grimes to be seen, and he set up our goal from an inside left position. I expect Baxendale was meant to be the one covering the flank from the central three (Benning - Chambers - Baxendale), but Bax never tracks back.
Grimes definitely wasn't playing up front and we definitely didn't play 4-4-2. It was basically the same system we were used to seeing last season, but with Baxendale rather than Mantom alongside Chambers, and Grimes, Sawyers and Benning behind Bradshaw.
WFC_Rob wrote:I'm not quite sure how Sawyers manage to divide opinion so dramatically. I thought he was good yesterday - as he usually is. The weakness in his game is his tendency to play one pass too many rather than have a shot from the edge of the box. If he can get that right, we'll score a lot more goals.
JonnyOwen wrote:TheSwift wrote:SoccerHQ, there is also Cook.
Also, Deano said that any deal between Manset and the club is now 'very unlikely'.
Well done Deano, we had said you would do this in a kind of sarcastic/believable manor. And what do you do, go and prove what we said.
What?
Why would taking a gamble on an injury prone Manset who has a history of doing well in pre-season and then disappearing in the league, who has only made like 50 appearances in a few years who wants a 2 year deal from us... be a good thing? Props to Smith for not being weak and end up giving in to his demands, because if he did sign a 2 year, end up getting injured or not being good then Smith would get stick for that too. Damned if he does damned if he doesn't.
Andy_Petterson wrote:It's a bit misleading to say Grimes played on the right. He did for parts of the game, but he did drift into the centre for parts too. You can see this on the goal we scored.
WFC_Rob wrote:Andy_Petterson wrote:It's a bit misleading to say Grimes played on the right. He did for parts of the game, but he did drift into the centre for parts too. You can see this on the goal we scored.
I know - that's why I didn't say he played on the right. :wink:
SaddlerCrewe wrote:For any of you who wants to waste an hour of your life on a wet Sunday, Radio Stoke's after match phone in, Praise and Grumble is online
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p023xpqg
Helps to move the cursor thingy, to avoid the whinging Crewe fans (Which was most of the first nine minutes)
Regarding Romaine Sawyers - I rate this player highly, he has undoubted skill and vision, although he is frustrating at times.
Please don't forget that he is still very much learning his trade, he's only had a shade over 30 starts since he joined us.
Some of the fans near me yesterday were getting on his back, which is disappointing.
latviancheese wrote:Sawyers was good yesterday in patches, in the patches he wasn't he was absolutely atrocious. It wasn't him laying one pass to many, he was passing to thin air, flicking it into defenders shins etc.
Its no coincidence we scored and built momentum when he kept it simple. The lad is unplayable when he is on it because no one ever knocks him off the ball, so its even more annoying when he simply gives them the ball back.
Its just irritating he seems to be immune from criticism while Baxendale, who had one of his best games yesterday for a long time, is cack, and we should bin him, apparently. :?
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