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Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Reports and reaction from the 2013-2014 season as Walsall finished 13th in League 1
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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:53 pm

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TheSwift wrote:if we performed like that every week, we would be in the play-offs.


Hi, what planet are you on?


Although we lost, we didn't play badly at all unlike the past few games. If we had performed like we did today against the sides we have lost to (Crawley, Coventry etc) we would have picked up more points than we have done.
People slagging off the front line today should also remember that dingles have only conceded 20 goals this season, under 1 a game (Franksy seemed to mention this 1000 times today!).

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:59 pm

It also seems McCarey did exactly the same as he did today when they played Brentford. According to his twitter, he ran over and celebrated infront of the Bees fans. Some of them have complained to the FA about him. :?

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:31 pm

I was suprised with the team selected this afternoon apart from Taylor.

Chambers did ok in central defense and purkiss did ok job.
Featherston kept giving the ball away and was crowded out on numerous occasions.
Hewitt tried his best but was in affective and should have had a penalty when his shirt got pulled in the box in the 2nd half when trying to evade 2 defenders.

As like previous games we lack the killer touch in the final third. to many sideways passes and hardly any runs made in behind.
suprised that brandy was in the box with the 2 headed attempts on another day who knows?
Wolves were not all that but had the firepower upfront when matters.

play-off chances are almost over unless peterborough have a massive down turn which I can't see.

did not witness what happened at the final whistle as wanted to get away as soon as with my lad.
but was sitting right in front when they scored there first goal and dhicko was wrong when he celebrated in front of our fans, as for the fan hope he gets lifetime ban as things could have turned more nasty.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:47 pm

mosaddler wrote: as for the fan hope he gets lifetime ban as things could have turned more nasty.


Wish he'd chinned the dingle fool :D

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sat Mar 08, 2014 10:57 pm

Surprised no-one mentioned the flares being thrown on the pitch in the middle if one of our attacks, the ref stopping the game then giving the ball to them to hoof it to O'Donnell. Cheating Scunthorpe.

Thought we played well in the first half but fell asleep for their goal.
The 2nd goal early in the 2nd half just killed the game off.
We spend far too much time passing the ball sideways and backwards only to then lose it and retreat back to our own box.

The antics of their players today were a disgrace.
They deliberately ran down into the only corner in the ground that was surrounded by our fans on both sides.
It was blatant incitement. Just the same as at the end of the game when they were far more interested in goading us than celebrating with their own fans. Now they appear to be playing the race card to try and deflect from them acting like pillocks.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:12 pm

Its funny though, when our players do it to other fans its "funny".

Take it on the chin. Incitement, so what. Dont fanny about. If your gonna goad them all game dont cry when they come to your corner arms aloft when they have scored.

At the end of the day, he wouldnt do that v the albion or some Scunthorpe would chin him, he will learn if he does that next season against them. Probably Jackett who told them to wind everyone up, cause he couldnt handle the jebbing he got when we beat them at Molineux.

As for Aaron McCarey, ill be seeing him soon enough. We will see how he celebrates then when he is on 200 pounds a week, freezing cold in the piss pot paint trophy on a tuesday night down the Bezzla in the pissy paint trophy. Ginger twerp. Ill be waiting for the fat Scunthorpe. He only gives it the big un because he knows its as good as it gets for him, on the bench at a club thats large in league one.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:30 pm

Spoke to a steward at half time about the idiot Dicko and asked what would be happening about his antics. Told that it was already being dealt with and 'procedures' were under way. Then they play the race card.........

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:05 am

The bloke who went onto the pitch was already banned before from Bescot for setting fire to the Stewards hat at Shrewsbury.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:44 am

KoloSaddler wrote:The bloke who went onto the pitch was already banned before from Bescot for setting fire to the Stewards hat at Shrewsbury.


I shouldnt have laughed.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:44 am

today was just what I expected tbh, if we had signed a player like, say just for arguments sake, delfounso (or however it's spelt) we would have been in with a real shout today. as it stands though the bullshit parachute payments continue to keep them at least a step ahead of any other team in league 1. makes it all the more embarrassing for them that they haven't already wrapped up the league if you ask me.

paul franks - Scunthorpe
dicko - big Scunthorpe
bloke who squared up to dicko - brave
racism "rumours" - totally unfounded
bloke who told people I was a wolves fan who subsequently got a slap in the chops - lucky my son was with me or I'd have gone to fudge town on you mate, total Scunthorpe.

onto crewe, if we play like that will probably be 0-0, can't buy a win at the moment :|

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:05 am

The Wulfs turned up yesterday and would have took a draw. They set up fairly cautiously. They needn't have bothered.

There is plenty of talk on this here match thread that there 'wasnt much between the two sides'.

You would never have been able to tell because I dont think they got out of first gear whilst we huffed and puffed between the 18 yard box and the half way line.

We then gifted a team in 1st gear a 3-0 lead.

It was dire.

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Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:36 am

It appears that Smiths PERIOD just goes on and on, that's 7 games without a win and each performance gets worse and worse. I have no idea what game some posters on here watched, easy win for the Dingles and a terrible effort from Walsall. That was probably the worst local derby I have ever seen.............we were rubbish.

We still need a striker, a couple of alternative plan B's, not that plan A is effective any more, a few more EARLY crosses into the box, shots at goal, less pissing about with the ball oh and I hope Baxendale's 3 year contract is extended for another 10 years so that we can always be reminded of how Smith wasted what little money we have on a ball boy.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:04 am

I also thought that Baxendale, Butler and Purkiss were very lazy and bone idle.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:28 am

thinking about the game again the chances we created 'brandy' could have had another hat-trick. 1st half he was on goal on the right and shot tamely at the keeper and the 2 headers in the 2nd half.
so on chances a draw would have been a fair result.
it's like last season when we went on that 16/17 win less run there were good performances within them but no luck as you say.

BUT we still need a striker. :lol:

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Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:39 am

I would love to know what the wage bill of our squad was, compared to theirs. The cost of Dicko alone would probably cover our wage bill several times over. Given the money they have spent, it is a disgrace that Wolves are in League 1 anyway. It's crap we lost to them, but at least it was honours even, given we won at the Moulinex.

I thought Hewitt did quite well, given his lack of game time, but he didn't stand a chance as he was fouled every single time he got the ball. It's curious that the laws of the game change, without anyone being informed, almost as if the referees get the notification by osmosis. Last time I looked I am sure that pulling a shirt, or putting your hands on an opponents back and giving him a push was a foul, but apparently not any more. Odd.

Featherstone, particularly in the first half gave the ball away every time he had it. Normally you can rely on him to find a red shirt, but not yesterday.

They scored one lucky goal, one were we switched off and one free kick that to be honest I couldn't understand how R O'D could be so far away from. He didn't get close and it wasn't in the corner. Weird. Having said that, with our finishing, we wouldn't have scored if we'd been playing until Christmas.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:33 am

Agree with aaaae.

Smith made the right changes. Loads of our players have gone from consistent 7's and 8's out of 10's to 5's and 6's in the last month or so. Downing and Westcarr have probably gone further. The only bloke in our squad who has gone from 7's and 8's to 9's in that time is Mantom and he couldn't play yesterday due to a very excitable official last week. Swapping him for a strangely off radar Featherstone was a big factor yesterday. Unfortunately we don't have £750k players sitting on our bench.

We did alright and created some decent chances and should have had a penalty. Wolves were better and deserved to win. Wouldn't say that they were in cruise control. Three bookings and at least three others that should have been booked plus the potential red card had the ref given the pen suggests they were stretched at times. It was obviously a big game for them and winning meant a lot given the reactions after the goals and at full-time.

Whilst seeing our ground full was a nice change it is always a shame that on such occasions it is half-full with barclays from both sides. If there were any Wolves fans behind our goal they kept themselves very very quiet indeed. Upstairs was full of the once a season brigade who spent the game either impressing us all with Hansen-esque punditry ('can't believe he dropped Mantom as he is so much more effective that Featherstone') or just slagging off the team they'd apparently come to support. Unfortunately, the chap who phoned WM who sat in the "upperer tier" and left after an hour wasn't untypical. The team was so much better than a large wedge of our support yesterday.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:54 am

PT wrote:Unfortunately, the chap who phoned WM who sat in the "upperer tier" and left after an hour wasn't untypical.


Had to turn the radio off after he shared his theory that Bonser had told the players not to pass to each other because promotion would cost him too much money. Turned it back on a few minutes later and he was still going. Franks's producer should have cut him off after his first slurred interruption but they were probably enjoying it too much. Almost as unprofessional as throwing accusations of racism about. Almost, but not quite.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:02 pm

Dean Smith may be a good man manager but he is tactically inept. That game yesterday required a formation change but Smith is a 1 trick pony. Its either 4231or 4231.

It didn't take a master tactician to see very early that we needed 2 up top yesterday. Smith couldn't see it even when we are 2 and 3 down.

The other thing is his sub's. Why does he stagger them. Its as though he does it by habit and nothing else. Sometimes 3 on which was what was needed yesterday cab disjoint the opposition. Smith gives the opposition the chance to twig the sub in installments.

A note on Baxendale. This boy because I can't yet call him a man is frightened of playing football. Lalcovic can't play this system either, it requires a football brain.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:15 pm

MPSaddler wrote:Smith is a 1 trick pony. Its either 4231or 4231.


Would that not make him a 2 trick pony? :wink:

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Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:01 pm

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PT wrote:Unfortunately, the chap who phoned WM who sat in the "upperer tier" and left after an hour wasn't untypical.


Had to turn the radio off after he shared his theory that Bonser had told the players not to pass to each other because promotion would cost him too much money. Turned it back on a few minutes later and he was still going. Franks's producer should have cut him off after his first slurred interruption but they were probably enjoying it too much. Almost as unprofessional as throwing accusations of racism about. Almost, but not quite.


I am still baffled how the drunken barclay saw Ikeme do what he was alledged to have done yet left with 20 odd mins to go after the 2nd goal went in even though that was after 48mins. My theory is, he was talking to a bloke in the pub that had been, hes that drunk he now believes it was himself that went and then thinks it would be a great idea to phone DingleFM and say he was in the 'upererererer Tier' and then the Chinese Whispers story begins.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:03 pm

PT wrote:
MPSaddler wrote:Smith is a 1 trick pony. Its either 4231or 4231.


Would that not make him a 2 trick pony? :wink:


pmsl :lol:

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:22 pm

Yesterday was disappointing but it was always going to be extremely difficult. Whats upset me most is (regardless of Wolves obvious quality at this level) our own form, something I've predicted since late last year.

My frustrations:

We months of need we eventually get a striker, but the wrong one. We needed a striker capable of leading the line, ability to turn defenders and the compose to take his chance (A Tubbs. A Delfounso).

Set pieces - How nobody has mentioned this I don't know. Our 'quality' from set pieces yesterday was criminal, criminal.

For me next seasons priorities has to be a good quality finisher and a set piece specialist (A Ben Davies).

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:22 pm

IHTC. wrote:
PT wrote:
MPSaddler wrote:Smith is a 1 trick pony. Its either 4231or 4231.


Would that not make him a 2 trick pony? :wink:


I laughed so hard my undies need washing :lol:


No 4231 or 4231 is the same trick.(1 trick pony)

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:41 pm

Didn't really think we had too bad a first half. Got to agree with the post that the formation needed changeing. end of the day smith is trying to repeat what ray Graydon done and attempt to get us into te championship, which is a massive ask considering recourses, attendances, and how much it cost to get a 15/20 goal a season striker which is out main problem. Callum Robinson would be ideal for me and was mentioned a while back, has pace plays on the shoulder ad will make runs. On another side of things the way some of the wolves players brought down our men deliberately not attempting the ball just to break up an attack was very frustrating, reminded me of Neil warnock a Sheffield united side, an to be honest wish we would do something similar and stop being so nice and try to win in other way other than having to pass 100000's of times before we shoot, featherstone was guilty of this Saturday but for what ever reason would not pull the trigger. I still think a top ten finish is a good season for Walsall fc and for what budget deano has got, the league is defo stronger this season. Not sure what budget he will have to rebuild next year. We have nobody to sell like a Pato who will earn us a few bob. The front line will be completely diminished when brandy and lalkovic go back off loan. Alot of work to be done in pre season for the staff

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:12 pm

Not sure why some people think Wolves played in 1st gear - that is most definitely not the case. They played in top gear once the usual first 15 minutes shadow boxing had passed. Their energy in closing our midfield down was relentless - 1st gear? Don't think so. First goal was quality - shows what a sharp striker can do. Second goal a pure fluke and the third just a great dead ball moment. Anyone thinking that was a hammering doesn't know a thing about football. Against a far better side we did pretty well and should have scored at least one. Wolves took it 100% seriously, Ikeme at the end - not bothered was he?! We matched them everywhere except in the box where we were largely toothless and they weren't. Donnell made one good save before the first goal, he was a spectator for most the day, as was Ikeme though. It was a fairly dull match really, dominated by lots of mis placed passes and overhit / underhit crosses. Our set pieces - awful, beat the first man without fail, we didn't. Purkiss looks so nervous and Sako spotted that early and pressed him back. Sawyers was superb, with the right partner he could score plenty.

Clinical efficiency when they needed it, the only difference. Efficiency brought about my x number of pounds to spend vs our 0 pounds to spend. Wolves had to get out of L1 this year, they knew it and made sure they didn't slip up. Good luck to them, they will need it in the Championship. Huge jump up in standard and strikers will punish them where we didn't today. The Merson / Samways team we had would have pounded that Wolves side easily. They will need a few signings to make a dent next year, sort of like we do now really - that wont quite have that missing something.

I don't get too hung up over Wolves, don't see the point. Sadly, some of their fans have caught Leeds United syndrome - severe bitterness. It seems to stem from them getting drummed every week for two seasons - they suddenly gain a sense of unjustified status. Big, big test for Jackett next year, he has never pulled up any trees in the Championship - the fans will expect big things, I'm not sure he is the man for it. Tactically they are very basic, we all know that doesn't work in the Championship, ask Ray Graydon.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:53 pm

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IHTC. wrote:
PT wrote:
MPSaddler wrote:Smith is a 1 trick pony. Its either 4231or 4231.


Would that not make him a 2 trick pony? :wink:


I laughed so hard my undies need washing :lol:


No 4231 or 4231 is the same trick.(1 trick pony)


Quite right NSD, that'll teach me for trying to be cocky.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:47 pm

1) Wolves are probably the physically strongest and fittest team in this division.

2) We had a hard midweek game. They didn't.

3)We were without probably our most industrious midfielder due to, by most consensus, a ridiculous red card.

I do mind losing, but the cards were stacked against us for this one.

I'm disappointed by the 'season is over' type comments on here. No it's not.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Sun Mar 09, 2014 11:26 pm

The two headers brandy missed were awful.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:31 am

IHTC. wrote:The two headers brandy missed were awful.


You have to ask how did the tightest defence in Europe (copyright Paul I'm a Jodrell Franks) let a 4 foot ten bloke have 2 free headers 6 yards from goal.Tom Pope would have buried both of them.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers (H) League One 8 Mar, 3pm

Mon Mar 10, 2014 8:56 am

NEWPORT SADDLERS DAD wrote:
IHTC. wrote:The two headers brandy missed were awful.


You have to ask how did the tightest defence in Europe (copyright Paul I'm a Jodrell Franks) let a 4 foot ten bloke have 2 free headers 6 yards from goal.Tom Pope would have buried both of them.

The Pope would have buried them.

Agree with the comments re Featherstone, I thought his performance yesterday was Taundry-esque, he was that bad.

We need a win to get the confidence back, will hopefully happen on Tuesday.

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