Welcome. This site is an archived version of the previous UpTheSaddlers forum (December 2004 to May 2018). To visit the new UTS website, please click here.

Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Reports and reaction from the 2012-2013 season as Walsall finished 9th in League 1
Forum rules
no avoiding the language filter, no text speak, no breaking the rules
User avatar
DonningtonSaddler
UTS Legend
 
Posts: 1466
Joined: Mon May 07, 2012 1:30 pm
Location: Round the Wrekin

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:57 pm

DonningtonSaddler wrote:Aha! so Plan B is to put Taundry on for Paterson. Brilliant. FFS!



Fantastic tactical substitution. Taundry should play every week!

Cully
Site Addict
 
Posts: 4310
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:55 pm
Location: Rugeley.........pronounced RUDGELEE apparently

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:57 pm

Thank fudge for that, we are absolute shite

User avatar
belgiansaddler
Site Addict
 
Posts: 3126
Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:45 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:58 pm

Great, another replay before we go out on penalties. Sounded dire

User avatar
boringteacher
UTS Legend
 
Posts: 2108
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:50 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:58 pm

my, I can't wait for the replay. Hope we have a 22 penalty shoot out again.

latviancheese
Site Addict
 
Posts: 13000
Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:35 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:58 pm

"Taundry is the reason we didnt win that game"

Oh hang on. :lol: :P

User avatar
saddlerken
Site Addict
 
Posts: 3267
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:24 pm
Location: The Mill

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 4:59 pm

Cant wait for the replay when we play them off the park...

SURELY out total football will be enough

Cully
Site Addict
 
Posts: 4310
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:55 pm
Location: Rugeley.........pronounced RUDGELEE apparently

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:01 pm

LLLLDLDD things are looking up, see you all on Tuesday - PERIOD

User avatar
WarsawPact
UTS Legend
 
Posts: 1645
Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2004 1:43 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:02 pm

The Road to Wembley starts with but a single step...

User avatar
SaigonSaddler
Site Addict
 
Posts: 10825
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:23 pm
Location: In Bonser's Grotto

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:03 pm

Image

User avatar
Ancient Moaner
Site Addict
 
Posts: 4101
Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:47 pm
Location: Leigh, twixt Wiggin & notloB

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:04 pm

boringteacher wrote:my, I can't wait for the replay. Hope we have a 22 penalty shoot out again.


Please noooooooooooooooo............Hang on a minute, out of 11 shots, thier goalie could slip and let our chip kiosk girls shot trickle over the line? nah, livin in cloud cuckoo land again. :(

User avatar
bangsection
Site Addict
 
Posts: 3951
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:28 pm
Location: York

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:04 pm

Clever stuff from Deano. A lucrative replay (including TV money) will fund the fresh bodies we clearly need.

Cully
Site Addict
 
Posts: 4310
Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:55 pm
Location: Rugeley.........pronounced RUDGELEE apparently

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:08 pm

Can we buy Jamie Taylor from Lincoln?

User avatar
boringteacher
UTS Legend
 
Posts: 2108
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:50 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:10 pm

bangsection wrote:Clever stuff from Deano. A lucrative replay (including TV money) will fund the fresh bodies we clearly need.



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GL6LH6ufhM[/youtube]

KoloSaddler
Glitterati
 
Posts: 977
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:38 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:16 pm

Ashley Hemming is a fudge joke.

User avatar
Fray Bentos is God!
Site Addict
 
Posts: 10378
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 12:17 pm
Location: Poking chimps with sticks and walking away since 2004.

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:16 pm

Cully wrote:Can we buy Jamie Taylor from Lincoln?


What is this "buy" you speak of?

User avatar
PT
Site Addict
 
Posts: 3733
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 8:04 pm
Location: Liverpool and skaville

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:22 pm

saddlerken wrote:Cant wait for the replay when we play them off the park...

SURELY out total football will be enough


Spot on. :wink:

It'll be the absolute opposite of a freezing cold night with barely 2,000 people there watching a game where it is difficult to tell the league side from the non-league side playing neither one thing or another football with a low scoring draw followed by a penalty shoot-out that two under 12 teams would be ashamed of. As you say - it'll be nothing like that as we sweep them effortlessly aside in front of a packed and adoring Bescot, basking in the warm glow of an Indian summer's evening.

User avatar
King Crimson
Poet Laureate
 
Posts: 8345
Joined: Thu Jun 02, 2005 5:45 pm
Location: In the Wake of Poseidon

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:26 pm

SaigonSaddler wrote:Image

Is that Douglas Bader?

Are you planning on getting legless on the back of tonight's stunning result? :idea:

;-)

User avatar
chestersaddler
Site Addict
 
Posts: 10191
Joined: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:21 am
Location: Europe

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:27 pm

Didn't listen to the commentary today but more than happy that we are still in the comp.

Not all the late goals go against us. Their manager is probably an idiot :wink:

User avatar
Graydon48
Glitterati
 
Posts: 1019
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:49 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:53 pm

Hats off to Taundry. The way he heaved his overweight body over the wall to fetch the ball back and still have the energy for one of his special throws that made the goal was class. Never question Smiths substitutions again !

User avatar
hullsaddler
Glitterati
 
Posts: 1031
Joined: Tue Dec 07, 2004 9:08 am
Location: hull

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 6:39 pm

We are very lucky to still be in the FA Cup. Lincoln thoroughly deserved to win. No-one would have known they were 2 levels below us.
We can obviously pass the ball around in our own half, sideways, backwards, but when there is no creative attacking product at the end of it, then it is a bit depressing. We certainly missed Flo & I just pray that his loan is extended.
Would not be at all surprised if we lose the replay... and not even on penalties!

lichsaddler
 
Posts: 82
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:12 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:52 pm

Just got back from the game, i've been pretty upbeat all season but I can find no positives at all after todays performance. Certainly missed cuvelier today, the midfield was absolutely abysmal. Hemmings deservedly got pillaried by the fans but I didn't think he was any worse than paterson who was AGAIN awful. Chambers and featherstone were sloppy on the ball all day long. We had the fair share of possession but none of it was in their final third with numerous passes going backwards. I've been one of the biggest admirers of our football style this season but today it didn't work and we were just devoid of ideas.

Defence was poor, particularly j chambers and holden. Grigg and Bowerman had no service all game so can't lay too much blame on them. The worst part of all wasn't the lack of quality - but the players didn't seem to care or show any fight at all.

Until today, I was still optimistic about the season in general but I am now pretty concerned after watching that dross two weeks in a row

On another note, their striker Jamie Taylor was a cut above anyone else on the pitch. Took his goal extremely well (worth watching the highlights for) and would be surprised if he wasn't picked up by a league club in the next few years.

stourportsaddler
 
Posts: 30
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:42 am

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:53 pm

Well just got back and that was so depressing we were a joke...............
Taylor ran rings around Butler and Holden he made them look stupid and scored a great goal, I can see why he has got Confrerence player of the month and he won't be there long.
We were clueless just passing left and right backwards left and right it was like we were playing in an August friendly just no ergency at all.
Groff kept us in it with a couple of decent saves whilst their keeper didnt have a thing to do and how come every other keeper seems to be able to kick the ball! where as Groff struggles to get it over half way.
Any how rant over as we survived but we looked like a bottom of the league side today with no confidence whatsoever.
Onward and Upwards....................................

User avatar
JonnyOwen
Site Addict
 
Posts: 2549
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:32 pm
Location: Anywhere but here.

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:22 pm

We'll do a trade with Lincoln! Hemmings and Paterson for Jamie Taylor :D

User avatar
Whitters
Site Addict
 
Posts: 2906
Joined: Mon Jun 02, 2008 10:57 am

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:27 pm

So when we're in the Conference it won't be as easy as people think....

User avatar
Sadders
UTS Legend
 
Posts: 1931
Joined: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:16 am
Location: Rugeley, Staffordshire

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:28 pm

Pathetic, woeful, slow, pedestrian, un-creative, lacking pace, lacking defensive ability, lacking guile, lacking height, lacking presense. Tremendously crap, awful, David Dickinson, crap, lacklustre, childish. Lincoln hammered us, we were pathetic. Back to the dark days of Hutchings, perhaps even worse at times. I dont blame Smith (who by the way kept the players on the pitch at the end hopefully to give them a roasting of their life time) he had no Taylor, no Brandy, no Cuvelier - I'd have gone with the exact same system as him, the only thing I'd have considered was leaving Bowerman on the bench and putting Baxendale back into a 4-5-1. Smith made the right changes IMO, Jones looked lively when he came on and Williams is bigger in size than any other striker in our side. The players need to take a long look at themselves, no urgency, no passion, no 1st balls, no 2nd balls, no presence, no strength - they just werent bothered. We had all the ball in the 1st half, but continued to play it at training pace across the back four, despite repeatedly have opportunities to drive 10 or 20 yards further forward, this allowed Lincoln's 2 banks of 4 to sit in comfortably awaiting our mis-placed pass.

Hemmings is the biggest disgrace to play for this club in yonks. Not one jot of anything he showed today replicates that of a league player. He was weak, slow, couldn't be arsed, didnt track back, showed no effort, no pace, didn't beat his man, didnt break up play, didn't defend, didnt attack - he just brought nothing but an arrogant 'chip on the shoulder' attitude - loan list him or tear his contract up now, we'l soon see how arrogant he is when he repeatedly checks his phone for an agent's call - only to find Hednesford Town are the only team willing to give him a trial. The 'We want Hemmings off chant', the 'Hemmings is a barclays' and the huge goal like cheer when he left the pitch were 100% thoroughly deserved - if he plays in a Walsall shirt again, its a crime of managerial proportions.

Jamie Paterson, yes - The Messi of league one. The fancy flicks, the pace, the skills, the turns. Oh sorry? It was almost like I was standing in his boots then. Note to yourself Jamie, you play in league one, you need to pass the ball like a lower league player, you need to look up before you pass, you need to stop running into blind alleys, you need to stop playing with such a stroppy pathetic 'arrogant' attitude - if we release you, who exactly do you think is going to take a gamble on a young kid released by lowly Warsaw? Macclesfield? Barnet? Accrington? You'l be lucky.

As for the rest. Holden and Butler were caught too square frequently, Holden is over the hill sat on his farm. To slow, easily shrugged off the ball and totally not up to it - shame as I like the man. Butler once again couldn't keep his mouth in order and ended up giving 2 stupid fouls away because he'd wound himself up and got frustrated - note to self Andy, we as fans love you for you 'up and at them attitude' but please try not to get booked and give risky free kicks away because you can't as a captain of a football team keep your mouth shut for more than 3.2 seconds.

Adam Chambers worked hard and put a couple of spicy tackles in, but went missing like most of last season and found himself in 'crab mode' at numerous points in the first half - especially on 2 occasions where he decided to play a 10 yard pass sidewards or backwards when he had a pass forwards on. James Chambers was relatively solid, but his ball retention in the 2nd half was poor and he was not his usual composed self. Featherstone had his worse game, his ball retention was the worst of anyone and despite 'always' trying, he was thoroughly lightweight, thoroughly wasteful and the only thing he tried to do was get at my patience.

On to David Grof. Why on earth do half of our fanbase back this clown? 3 times today he nearly cost us, flapping for a corner, parrying a weak long distance effort to the feet of Jamie Taylor and not communicating with Butler almost causing a goal both in the 1st half and 2nd half. The man is a walking liability. He is very close at times to being on Jon Brain level of liability. He can't command his box, his kicking is generally hit and miss, his shot stopping is dire, he gets beaten from distance, he's a walking 'chip' candidate, he instills no confidence in the squad or the defence and he is a 'walking clanger'. Yet some people have him primed as the next candidate for Joe Hart's position at City. Talk about blinkers, he's mostly dire.

The only players that can take anything from the game are Grigg, who again tried hard, ran the channels well in the opening 20 minutes and did look like scoring for once. Bowerman works hard but doesn't really have any attributes to his game bar the actually scoring part (okay that's a good thing, but in a side like this it's really not) and Purkiss who was literally standing that far over on the right hand side at times he wasn't in the lines of play!

Sorry to sound so doomful and 'write slashy'. But today wasn't an off day like Bury was last week, this was 10 times as bad, this was lazy, un-motivated. This consisted of little attacking play, this consisted of arrogance from half of our squad and this consisted of quite frankly at times an embarassing lack of quality. This isn't a worrying sign, this is a sign that we really need to pull the trigger on some loans before we lose all momentum and memory of a very good opening start to the season.

Without Cuvelier we looked less than a conference side. We had no physical edge against a bigger Lincoln side and our football was more 'tippy tappy' and 'side to side' than a conference side. If you can't hoof it and get results, then you have to play football and get results - correct? We were frankly terrible at both today. Okay so Lincoln were up for it and had absolutely nothing to lose, but they were miles better than us, better on the ball, more penetrative, they had a classy looking little striker in Jamie Taylor, they had it over our backline all afternoon and for it - they looked far more threatening. If I was a Lincoln fan tonight, i'd be truly devastated. It says it all that I felt embarassed celebrating a Walsall FC goal.

This wasn't a bad day because we drew to a side 50 places below us, this was an embarassing day because we had a squad that thought they'd walk all over Lincoln City and they were well and truly taught a lesson. Not been this dissapointed/angry about a performance since the darkest of dark days under Hutchings. Finally, an apology to Lincoln fans - I apologise that you will have drive 80 miles to our ground on a cold Tuesday night in 2 weeks, I apologise you will have to spend your hard earned cash on playing a replay against us and finally, I apologise that you wont be sat tommorrow afternoon watching the draw in the comfy knowledge that you have a place in the 2nd round, as you justly deserved.

Positives?
- We get a 2nd crack at it.
- We can't play that badly again in any official fixture this season.
- Jake Jones looked lively.
- Hopefully Hemmings wont play in our team ever again.


Grof 1 - Useless excuse for a goalkeeper. A flying purple potato.

Purkiss 6 - Tried his best. Got forward at times, still frighteningly slow though.
Holden 4 - Given the run around by a BSP striker.
Butler 5 - Skinned too easily and gave fouls away, won his fair share of headers though. Nothing like captain fantastic.
J Chambers 6 - Solid enough at the back, frustratingly wasteful in possession.

Paterson 0 - Have fun in the reserves Jamie.
Featherstone 2 - The logic behind football is to pass the ball to one of your own players Nicky.
A Chambers 5 - Best of the midfield, tried hard but lacked the bite of recent weeks.
Hemmings 0 - Are you loan listed yet Ashley? Detestable little prat.

Bowerman 4 - Goal is a goal, but brings nothing else.
Grigg 7 - MOTM. Won a few headers, brought others in to the game and generally was a bright spark in an otherwise terrible occasion.

SUBS
Jake Jones 6 - Impressed, showed the energy and passion we lacked all afternoon.
Williams - Won 1 header, but isn't ready for pro football yet.

Welsh_Saddler
Site Addict
 
Posts: 9804
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:44 pm
Location: The beautiful Afan Valley

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:36 pm

What a cracking summary - thanks Sadders.

The (local) BBC Radio Lincolnshire summariser's comment at the very end was along the lines of "Well, Walsall scored from a set piece, but that was the only way they were going to score today. There was no chance at all of them scoriong from open play".

Time to get the videos of Bournemouth, Preston et al out, Dean???

Bernie
UTS Legend
 
Posts: 1868
Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:27 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:43 pm

Sadders wrote:
Hemmings is the biggest disgrace to play for this club in yonks. Not one jot of anything he showed today replicates that of a league player. He was weak, slow, couldn't be bothered, didnt track back, showed no effort, no pace, didn't beat his man, didnt break up play, didn't defend, didnt attack - he just brought nothing but an arrogant 'chip on the shoulder' attitude - loan list him or tear his contract up now, we'l soon see how arrogant he is when he repeatedly checks his phone for an agent's call - only to find Hednesford Town are the only team willing to give him a trial. The 'We want Hemmings off chant', the 'Hemmings is a winner' and the huge goal like cheer when he left the pitch were 100% thoroughly deserved - if he plays in a Walsall shirt again, its a crime of managerial proportions.


Thanks for that report - really informative.

Hemmings will not worry too much about a call from his agent - Smith gave him a two year contract in the summer.

philthesaddler
Site Addict
 
Posts: 5371
Joined: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:13 pm
Location: Bescot Stadium, 'the stadium that never closes'. Opening hours Mon-Fri 10am-4pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:49 pm

Is this the same Hemmings that Neil Ravenscroft described as a "premier league player" after we signed him?

MILO5
UTS Veteran
 
Posts: 549
Joined: Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:25 pm

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:03 pm

Does anyone think that today's performance may have increased the odds of us winning the cup?

User avatar
JonnyOwen
Site Addict
 
Posts: 2549
Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:32 pm
Location: Anywhere but here.

Re: Lincoln City (A) F A Cup First Round Saturday 3/11/12.

Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:07 pm

I agree we were worse than woeful, but I still can't see where all this hate for Grof comes from; he kept us in the game multiple times against Bury and today.

PreviousNext
Return to 2012-13 Season

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests