Milton Keynes Dons (H) League 1 Saturday 29/10/11.

[longdogs]

Attendance 3,712

According to the BBC website Beevers is making save after save :D

He's done really well. We've been the better team this half.

[Sadsfan]

Probably our best home performance of the season, Wilson has looked very good.

[Ancient Moaner]

Was 4-3 now it's 4-4 back to 20th, bottom for us by next Saturday night.
Sorry Yoevil have just let the vile Huddersfield score, bottom but one then.

[belgiansaddler]

Sounds like a spirited second half performance, but yet again too little too late. Another wasted opportunity as the vile Dongs sound pretty poor. Walker should hang his head in shame. He is supposed to be a senior professional. Idiot.

[Ancient Moaner]

Probably our best home performance of the season, Wilson has looked very good.

No matter how good the 'performance' , we are still losin every match now, Deano will have to watch over his shoulder, even our puppet Board will not suffer this humiliation for much longer.!

[Ancient Moaner]

'Interesting' clash next week Grof versus Rhodes.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Darth Vader]

Probably our best home performance of the season, Wilson has looked very good.

No matter how good the 'performance' , we are still losin every match now, Deano will have to watch over his shoulder, even our puppet Board will not suffer this humiliation for much longer.!

TBH we were really unlucky today, one thing I can't wait to see is Gnakpa's shot that smashed the post about 3 times, I was celebrating like a madman but then realised it didn't go in. :(

[Aldridge_saddler]

Our besst performance in a while and all you can do is moan... My god you make me sick!! Christ jimmy walker and the lino, made 2 bad decisions. How is that Smith's fault? Jesus!

[Neuromantic]

'Interesting' clash next week Grof versus Rhodes.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:wink:

[Neuromantic]

Our besst performance in a while and all you can do is moan... My god you make me sick!! Christ jimmy walker and the lino, made 2 bad decisions. How is that Smith's fault? Jesus!

I love you fella.

But we are not nearly bottom because of one game. I will always give Deano time but if things don't improve soon then he has to go unfortunately - and I say that with a heavy heart.

[SWS1]

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Reading between the lines (or, in a novel strategy, actually reading what people have written) in the last few weeks, it sounds like we ain't had the rub of the green and performances have been good or not too bad - but we have picked up hardly any points. A few red cards haven't helped either.
However, teams and MANAGERS stand or fall on RESULTS.
They'd better start coming soon or we're all in serious doo doos.
Depressed.
Saturday night feckedup again.
:cry: :cry: :cry:

[Aldridge_saddler]

Our besst performance in a while and all you can do is moan... My god you make me sick!! Christ jimmy walker and the lino, made 2 bad decisions. How is that Smith's fault? Jesus!

I love you fella.

But we are not nearly bottom because of one game. I will always give Deano time but if things don't improve soon then he has to go unfortunately - and I say that with a heavy heart.

But mate Deano will still keep us up, I have every faith. We all know our problems are higher than him.

[Jolly Johnny]

Christ jimmy walker...

Well he certainly put in a hand of god performance today! :D

[cumonureds]

You can't blame the board for today. Deano was fantastic last season when he was prepared to change a game when it wasn't going Walsall's way now he doesn't even use 3 subs when we are losing take Tuesday when losing to Exceter he did not try to change the game! He won't use 3 subs and won't put a goalie on the bench, how is he going to keep us up?

[priestley_saddler]

It's very rare that you play a match for an hour with 10 men and an outfield player in goal. However, its even rarer to come out of said match feeling unlucky to have lost it.

It was an even enough game up to the red card, and then madness ensued. Personally I have no complaints with the red card. I know handball outside the box isn't a mandatory red card, but it was the pre-meditated manner in which he did it that sealed his fate. If a keeper comes to the edge of his box, claims the ball, and his momentum carries him outside the area then that's unfortunate...but that's not what happened. He came to the edge of his area, stopped to wait for the ball, realised it might not reach him, thought about it for a second, steppped foot outside his box, picked the ball up, then turned round and stepped back. Absolute and total stupidity from a man who should have known better.

You could argue the referee might have given him the benefit of the doubt and just booked him, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway as had he stayed on the pitch he would surely have been sent off for dissent after the second goal, which even Stevie Wonder would have flagged for offside. It wasn't even close, not half a yard, or a yard, or even a yard and half. He was offside by roughly the length of your average lounge, which somehow the linesman managed to miss. I don't blame the ref, he can't give offside if the linesman hasn't flagged, but the linesman should be ashamed of himself and be given a lengthy sabbatical from linesmaning.

The red card for Wacka did raise the obvious question "Why no keeper on the bench?" and will surely get people who weren't there calling for Deano's head and calling him an idiot for not doing so. However, if Beevers goalkeeping ability was already known to Smith then it makes a great deal of sense not to have a keeper, as he proved more than capable in what is a difficult and specialised position. The laughable decision to give MOTM to Manny Smith was grossly unfair on Beevers, who made regulation stop after regulation stop. Although they're not really regulation if you're a fullback.

I've never understood the term "This could be a cricket score" when describing a football match, I've never heard of a football match finishing 117/4. However, a rugby score did look likely at half time. Yet, somewhat madly, we were the better team in the second half and really shouldn't have lost. I'd go as far as to say its the best 45 minutes we've played since Sheffield United, but it does leave the question why couldn't we play like that first half when we had 11 men?? Nicholls had a chance which their defender deflected out for a corner...only for the hapless lineman to give a goalkick. Paterson forced a full length stop from their keeper which he finger tipped wide, and Gnakpa had an effort which rebounded off both posts before bouncing away.

Its accurate to say we're not getting the rub of the green lately and we're definitely owed a few decisions, and I hope the morons amongst us stick with Deano and don't start/continue calling for him to go. However, a team that has five players sent off before the clocks go back has one or two disciplinary issues as it is costing us dearly.

Walker - Absolute numpty. Cost us the game. Nuff said.
Beevers - MOTM. Took the keepers jersey in what looked a pre-agreed move should anything happen to Wacka. Played really well and earned his money today, however I find it unlikely he'll keep his place in goal at Huddersfield.
Sadler - Got done once in the first half, but got away with it when their player fell over. Other than that a usual steady and reliable game.
Smith - Got sponsors MOTM and didn't have a bad game, but not MOTM. Booked for dissent after the second goal.
Butler - Steady but unspectacular. Made a couple of crunching tackles and probably slightly out performed Smith.
Hurst - Reverted back to the left and put a couple of decent crosses in, but was brought off injured just before the break. Much better on the right.
Taundry - The peculiar inclusion in the line up. Should never have started, and absolute never should he start wide right. Not sure what the thinking was behind it. Was adequate at right back.
Peterlin - I said on Tuesday he's possibly the best midfielder at the club, and continued it again today. Played well.
Wilson - An adequate debut by the new man, hopefully there's more to come from him.
Macken - Didn't do a lot prior to being withdrew tactically after the Wacka red.
Nicholls - Battled away and did well considering he was living off scraps. Definitely in a purple patch form wise.

Subs

Paterson - Should have started, and proved it by being probably our best player in the second half.
Gnakpa - A much improved performance and certainly wont come closer to scoring without actually doing so.

[Sadsfan]

It doesn't matter how much bad luck you have, its a results business and only one win in 11 is nowhere near good enough. it is essentially smiths team too. At least we played with some tempo second half, too often our play is pedestrian and that is smiths fault. On a separate note, why were people clapping Jimmy off the pitch? He'd just cost us the game (and that was about the only decision that linesman got right) I was calling him all the names under the sun, legend or not it was his fault he got sent off and no-one elses.

[Darth Vader]

Thought Wilson was sound throughout, looks a tidy player.

[Sadsfan]

It's very rare that you play a match for an hour with 10 men and an outfield player in goal. However, its even rarer to come out of said match feeling unlucky to have lost it.

It was an even enough game up to the red card, and then madness ensued. Personally I have no complaints with the red card. I know handball outside the box isn't a mandatory red card, but it was the pre-meditated manner in which he did it that sealed his fate. If a keeper comes to the edge of his box, claims the ball, and his momentum carries him outside the area then that's unfortunate...but that's not what happened. He came to the edge of his area, stopped to wait for the ball, realised it might not reach him, thought about it for a second, steppped foot outside his box, picked the ball up, then turned round and stepped back. Absolute and total stupidity from a man who should have known better.

You could argue the referee might have given him the benefit of the doubt and just booked him, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway as had he stayed on the pitch he would surely have been sent off for dissent after the second goal, which even Stevie Wonder would have flagged for offside. It wasn't even close, not half a yard, or a yard, or even a yard and half. He was offside by roughly the length of your average lounge, which somehow the linesman managed to miss. I don't blame the ref, he can't give offside if the linesman hasn't flagged, but the linesman should be ashamed of himself and be given a lengthy sabbatical from linesmaning.

The red card for Wacka did raise the obvious question "Why no keeper on the bench?" and will surely get people who weren't there calling for Deano's head and calling him an idiot for not doing so. However, if Beevers goalkeeping ability was already known to Smith then it makes a great deal of sense not to have a keeper, as he proved more than capable in what is a difficult and specialised position. The laughable decision to give MOTM to Manny Smith was grossly unfair on Beevers, who made regulation stop after regulation stop. Although they're not really regulation if you're a fullback.

I've never understood the term "This could be a cricket score" when describing a football match, I've never heard of a football match finishing 117/4. However, a rugby score did look likely at half time. Yet, somewhat madly, we were the better team in the second half and really shouldn't have lost. I'd go as far as to say its the best 45 minutes we've played since Sheffield United, but it does leave the question why couldn't we play like that first half when we had 11 men?? Nicholls had a chance which their defender deflected out for a corner...only for the hapless lineman to give a goalkick. Paterson forced a full length stop from their keeper which he finger tipped wide, and Gnakpa had an effort which rebounded off both posts before bouncing away.

Its accurate to say we're not getting the rub of the green lately and we're definitely owed a few decisions, and I hope the morons amongst us stick with Deano and don't start/continue calling for him to go. However, a team that has five players sent off before the clocks go back has one or two disciplinary issues as it is costing us dearly.

Walker - Absolute numpty. Cost us the game. Nuff said.
Beevers - MOTM. Took the keepers jersey in what looked a pre-agreed move should anything happen to Wacka. Played really well and earned his money today, however I find it unlikely he'll keep his place in goal at Huddersfield.
Sadler - Got done once in the first half, but got away with it when their player fell over. Other than that a usual steady and reliable game.
Smith - Got sponsors MOTM and didn't have a bad game, but not MOTM. Booked for dissent after the second goal.
Butler - Steady but unspectacular. Made a couple of crunching tackles and probably slightly out performed Smith.
Hurst - Reverted back to the left and put a couple of decent crosses in, but was brought off injured just before the break. Much better on the right.
Taundry - The peculiar inclusion in the line up. Should never have started, and absolute never should he start wide right. Not sure what the thinking was behind it. Was adequate at right back.
Peterlin - I said on Tuesday he's possibly the best midfielder at the club, and continued it again today. Played well.
Wilson - An adequate debut by the new man, hopefully there's more to come from him.
Macken - Didn't do a lot prior to being withdrew tactically after the Wacka red.
Nicholls - Battled away and did well considering he was living off scraps. Definitely in a purple patch form wise.

Subs

Paterson - Should have started, and proved it by being probably our best player in the second half.
Gnakpa - A much improved performance and certainly wont come closer to scoring without actually doing so.

I thought Wilson looked very comfortable on the ball and showed a lot of composure, certainly looked better than what we already have.

[brackley]

I have got to congratulate the lads on a gutsy performance todayfollowing Wacka's sending off, which for the record I thought was an absolute joke! Assuming the lino was right, it would have been that marginal and was never a clear goalscoring opportunity as their man had our defenders around him.......

I can never remember a season thats only a 1/3 of the way gone, where we have had so many players sent off and from recollection all poor decisions......... as for the standard of refereeing and linesmanship it is nothing short of abismal - I have never seen anything like it!! :evil:

Immediately after the sending off, with Beevers taking the gloves we conceded 2 poor goals......... you couldnt of course blame the lad.......... and as im sure we all thought the afternoon was going to descend in to a complete farce and an embarrassing scoreline.

Deano - I dont know whether Grof picked up an injury in the warm up or whether you decided to go it without a keeper on the bench......... if it was the latter, there is no defending what is an extremely poor decision at this level and particularly when you can name 5 subs..... ???? :oops:

Tactically, we had no choice but to make the changes we did and for me they worked extremely well and vindicated my previous view of how we should be using Gnakpa........Paterson is most definately the cream of our youth and was most certainly worthy of his place.

The second half for me was a total credit to all the players........ what a performance when we looked dead and buried at half-time. We hit the post, we had numerous half-chances from headers or snap shots when in good positions and the lad Paterson had bullet of a shot from 25 yards palmed away when it looked destined for the top corner. We defended in numbers, we got behind the ball and we broke down their play extremely effectively and then counter-attacked with some intelligent play at times.......

Im sorry..... but we are on the most appalling streak of dare I say bad luck, judging the last 3 games - the lads deserve better. We have the nucleaus of a workmanlike but dogged Div 1 side that needs 2 or 3 players to bring some results and consistency.

The defensive unit was again solid, the midfield was organised and looked settled in the 2nd half and acquitted themselves well and the front line of Gnakpa, Paterson and Nicholls inter-changing brought some hope that we may claw our way back whilst Beevers showed his flair between the sticks.

You can hold your heads up high for that today fellas - there was no shame in that result or performance!!

[longdogs]

It's very rare that you play a match....

Priestley, another excellent match report. Please keep them coming.

The only thing I'd disagree with is your assessment of Wilson - I thought he had an excellent game and was much better than I'd expected.

[tinned]

following Wacka's sending off, which for the record I thought was an absolute joke! Assuming the lino was right, it would have been that marginal and was never a clear goalscoring opportunity as their man had our defenders around him.......

You're joking right??? It was so blatant handball out of the area it was untrue. I'm known for wearing rose-tinted spectacles but come on .....

Whacker, yowm a prat!

[longdogs]

following Wacka's sending off, which for the record I thought was an absolute joke! Assuming the lino was right, it would have been that marginal and was never a clear goalscoring opportunity as their man had our defenders around him.......

You're joking right??? It was so blatant handball out of the area it was untrue. I'm known for wearing rose-tinted spectacles but come on .....

Whacker, yowm a prat!

Agreed, Tinned. The moment he handled the ball he was off. Can't see how it would have been otherwise. Mind you, it was the only thing that linesman got right all afternoon.

[Pedagogue]

Can I just make a point of football law?

A goalkeeper handling the ball outside his penalty-area is NOT, I repeat NOT, contrary to popular belief, an automatic sending-off offence. It is punishable by a direct free-kick. However, IF the referee considers that the goalkeeper has denied an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, then, and only then, he must send off the goalkeeper.

[SheffieldSaddler]

MK havent won in 4 league away matches
Walsall do have an half decent record against them.
But we are absolutely useless and would fail to beat most Sunday League pub teams at the moment
Walsall 0 MK 2

Unfortunately I was right again!

SMITH OUT!

[Darth Vader]

Did anyone else hear the Dongs fans chant, 'No-one likes us'?

Oh how I laughed.

[deanonev69]

following Wacka's sending off, which for the record I thought was an absolute joke! Assuming the lino was right, it would have been that marginal and was never a clear goalscoring opportunity as their man had our defenders around him.......

You're joking right??? It was so blatant handball out of the area it was untrue. I'm known for wearing rose-tinted spectacles but come on .....

Whacker, yowm a prat!

He'd been lucky before that not to get a yellow card after his tirade at the linesman but the handball was so far out of his area: i don't know why he did it as he surely had a little bit of time to volley it away.

Battled well in second half and still don't know how Gnapka's effort didn't go in. Patterson looked lively and Wilson was assured in the middle.

[andy22]

Can I just make a point of football law?

A goalkeeper handling the ball outside his penalty-area is NOT, I repeat NOT, contrary to popular belief, an automatic sending-off offence. It is punishable by a direct free-kick. However, IF the referee considers that the goalkeeper has denied an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, then, and only then, he must send off the goalkeeper.

I agree Pedagogue. My sons a 'keeper and said the ref had no choice but to send Walker off who incidentaly was a complete prat and should hang his head in shame.

Still it now gives Grof a good chance to establish himself in the side, his early games showed some promise.

[brackley]

Can I just make a point of football law?

A goalkeeper handling the ball outside his penalty-area is NOT, I repeat NOT, contrary to popular belief, an automatic sending-off offence. It is punishable by a direct free-kick. However, IF the referee considers that the goalkeeper has denied an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, then, and only then, he must send off the goalkeeper.

Absolutely correct my friend........... and in my view it was not a clear goalscoring opportunity. In over 500 games at semi-pro level and having done exactly the same as Wacka, I never got sent off - always a yellow!!

|n fairness from where i was sitting I didnt have a clear view of how marinally outside the box he was or wasnt - theres no denying a bad error....... goalkeeping is about decision making and often only with a split second to decide - he got it wrong when he should have used his head to clear it from danger and clattered their fella in the process!

[Sadsfan]

Can I just make a point of football law?

A goalkeeper handling the ball outside his penalty-area is NOT, I repeat NOT, contrary to popular belief, an automatic sending-off offence. It is punishable by a direct free-kick. However, IF the referee considers that the goalkeeper has denied an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, then, and only then, he must send off the goalkeeper.

Absolutely correct my friend........... and in my view it was not a clear goalscoring opportunity. In over 500 games at semi-pro level and having done exactly the same as Wacka, I never got sent off - always a yellow!!

|n fairness from where i was sitting I didnt have a clear view of how marinally outside the box he was or wasnt - theres no denying a bad error....... goalkeeping is about decision making and often only with a split second to decide - he got it wrong when he should have used his head to clear it from danger and clattered their fella in the process!

So the attacker was racing through one on one with Jimmy, albeit with some defenders chasing, and Jimmy handled it to stop the attacker from getting to the ball (well,why else would he handle it) and therefore stopping him from having a chance of scoring.How is that not preventing a goalscoring opportunity? If it had been their keeper you wouldn't be presenting that flimsy argument. Stop trying to cover jimmys fat arse when its clear it was a definite red card.

[Duke]

Sounds like a spirited second half performan

Exactly how WM described today's game , question is why does take 45 minutes to get us going .