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Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Reports and reaction from the 2011-2012 season as Walsall finished 19th in League 1
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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:50 am

belgiansaddler wrote:Taundry is a man transformed


Funny how Taundry was described as a "headless chicken" last season in order to defend Richards, yet this season he's playing superbly.

Could it possibly have been that - like some of us were saying - Richards caused a lot of problems in midfield with his lack of effort, incessant giving away of the ball and speed of a milk float?

Anyway, not too bothered about the result last night, as MMF said, the performance should do loads for team pride and confidence.

Still a little frustrated though as it would appear we are a couple of decent loan signings away from being real contenders for a playoff place this season, and for the relatively small outlay for two decent loanees, we could see an extra 1000-1500 on the gates by Christmas if we're top 8.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:11 am

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belgiansaddler wrote:Taundry is a man transformed


Funny how Taundry was described as a "headless chicken" last season in order to defend Richards, yet this season he's playing superbly.

Could it possibly have been that - like some of us were saying - Richards caused a lot of problems in midfield with his lack of effort, incessant giving away of the ball and speed of a milk float?

Anyway, not too bothered about the result last night, as MMF said, the performance should do loads for team pride and confidence.

Still a little frustrated though as it would appear we are a couple of decent loan signings away from being real contenders for a playoff place this season, and for the relatively small outlay for two decent loanees, we could see an extra 1000-1500 on the gates by Christmas if we're top 8.


Hardly, Phil, as Taundry was being described as a "headless chicken" three seasons ago. He just needed taking in hand

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:33 am

belgiansaddler wrote:top report as usual Priestly. Was that you I was briefly chatting to with Linda at half time?

Yup, that was me :D

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:40 am

Let's get carried away here!
Firstly what an advert for league 1 football.
That was the best walsall team performance for many years last night.If Gnakpa had converted to make it 3-0 it was game over.Such is football though that they pulled one back and the whole dimension of the game changed.Even after that though we hit the post.
Sheffied United will probably win promotion easily this season but will not be given the run aroung again at home like that again.I consider it a tribute to us that they had to take the ball into the corner flags to play out time as they were running scared.
We are a club transformed under Deano!

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:17 am

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belgiansaddler wrote:Taundry is a man transformed


Funny how Taundry was described as a "headless chicken" last season in order to defend Richards, yet this season he's playing superbly.

Could it possibly have been that - like some of us were saying - Richards caused a lot of problems in midfield with his lack of effort, incessant giving away of the ball and speed of a milk float?


Anyway, not too bothered about the result last night, as MMF said, the performance should do loads for team pride and confidence.

Still a little frustrated though as it would appear we are a couple of decent loan signings away from being real contenders for a playoff place this season, and for the relatively small outlay for two decent loanees, we could see an extra 1000-1500 on the gates by Christmas if we're top 8.



No. For me he needs a manager above him that approaches positional sense with a bit more discipline, that's what's improved him. He absolutely was a headless chicken last year, it had nothing to do with Matt Richards, or the vital goals Matt Richards scored for the team.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:22 am

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belgiansaddler wrote:Taundry is a man transformed


Funny how Taundry was described as a "headless chicken" last season in order to defend Richards, yet this season he's playing superbly.

Could it possibly have been that - like some of us were saying - Richards caused a lot of problems in midfield with his lack of effort, incessant giving away of the ball and speed of a milk float?

Anyway, not too bothered about the result last night, as MMF said, the performance should do loads for team pride and confidence.

Still a little frustrated though as it would appear we are a couple of decent loan signings away from being real contenders for a playoff place this season, and for the relatively small outlay for two decent loanees, we could see an extra 1000-1500 on the gates by Christmas if we're top 8.



Like a dog with a bone :wink:

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:42 am

m&m wrote:Let's get carried away here!
Firstly what an advert for league 1 football.
That was the best walsall team performance for many years last night.If Gnakpa had converted to make it 3-0 it was game over.Such is football though that they pulled one back and the whole dimension of the game changed.Even after that though we hit the post.
Sheffied United will probably win promotion easily this season but will not be given the run aroung again at home like that again.I consider it a tribute to us that they had to take the ball into the corner flags to play out time as they were running scared.
We are a club transformed under Deano!

Totally agree . I also thought that deano should of brought nicholls on after sheff utd had scored their 1st goal , just to give a attacking outlet with pace to stretch the game a little and take the heat off our back four.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 11:57 am

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philthesaddler wrote:
belgiansaddler wrote:Taundry is a man transformed


Funny how Taundry was described as a "headless chicken" last season in order to defend Richards, yet this season he's playing superbly.

Could it possibly have been that - like some of us were saying - Richards caused a lot of problems in midfield with his lack of effort, incessant giving away of the ball and speed of a milk float?


Anyway, not too bothered about the result last night, as MMF said, the performance should do loads for team pride and confidence.

Still a little frustrated though as it would appear we are a couple of decent loan signings away from being real contenders for a playoff place this season, and for the relatively small outlay for two decent loanees, we could see an extra 1000-1500 on the gates by Christmas if we're top 8.



No. For me he needs a manager above him that approaches positional sense with a bit more discipline, that's what's improved him. He absolutely was a headless chicken last year, it had nothing to do with Matt Richards, or the vital goals Matt Richards scored for the team.

Totally correct. Taundry has ball-chased incessently since breaking into the team which means he's always 10 yards away from where he needs to be. So often he is caught upfield with the ball flying back over his head because he's made some stupid run. This year, he has twice had to play in teams down to 10 men and that sort of behaviour would see us torn to shreds. However, even against Middlesbrough he kept his discipline and was in a much better position to break up play and receive the ball.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:01 pm

Bummers are out again i see. :roll: :mrgreen:

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:08 pm

I said at the time, Taundry was much improved within days of Smith taking over from Hutchings. The fact that Richards was still in the team at that point goes to show that a change to the management style was all it took to give Taundry a boost.

He's always had ability, but missed having someone to talk him through his performances in terms of what works best for the team.

I'm absolutely delighted to hear how well he's been playing so far and look forward to seeing more of the same on Saturday.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:23 pm

Played really well last night, first half we kept our shape brilliantly and seemed to have so much time and space on the ball and really should of gone in at half time in the lead. Started the second half even better with 2 quick fire goals then we seemed to lose our discipline and just sit back and invite the pressure, only reverting back after the 3rd goal had gone in. Throughly enjoyable game and although it's gutting, can only take the positves out of the game, a few loan palyers (+ chambers) away from being a very good league 1 side. UTS

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:08 pm

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philthesaddler wrote:
belgiansaddler wrote:Taundry is a man transformed


Funny how Taundry was described as a "headless chicken" last season in order to defend Richards, yet this season he's playing superbly.

Could it possibly have been that - like some of us were saying - Richards caused a lot of problems in midfield with his lack of effort, incessant giving away of the ball and speed of a milk float?

Anyway, not too bothered about the result last night, as MMF said, the performance should do loads for team pride and confidence.

Still a little frustrated though as it would appear we are a couple of decent loan signings away from being real contenders for a playoff place this season, and for the relatively small outlay for two decent loanees, we could see an extra 1000-1500 on the gates by Christmas if we're top 8.


Hardly, Phil, as Taundry was being described as a "headless chicken" three seasons ago. He just needed taking in hand


Actually he was slated all pre season, totally agree phil, I did say lets see how we do without the 'superstar' Richards and so far so good.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:41 pm

Darlosaddler wrote:
Neil Ravenscroft wrote:
philthesaddler wrote:
belgiansaddler wrote:Taundry is a man transformed


Funny how Taundry was described as a "headless chicken" last season in order to defend Richards, yet this season he's playing superbly.

Could it possibly have been that - like some of us were saying - Richards caused a lot of problems in midfield with his lack of effort, incessant giving away of the ball and speed of a milk float?

Anyway, not too bothered about the result last night, as MMF said, the performance should do loads for team pride and confidence.

Still a little frustrated though as it would appear we are a couple of decent loan signings away from being real contenders for a playoff place this season, and for the relatively small outlay for two decent loanees, we could see an extra 1000-1500 on the gates by Christmas if we're top 8.


Hardly, Phil, as Taundry was being described as a "headless chicken" three seasons ago. He just needed taking in hand


Actually he was slated all pre season, totally agree phil, I did say lets see how we do without the 'superstar' Richards and so far so good.


So why did Hutchings bring in Davis and drop Taundry and then Smith brought in Matt Gill who formed the best midfield partnership we had last season with him and Richards together and then after a few games after Gill was recalled brought the French chap from Carlisle and Laird from Millwall and dumped Taundry out of the starting 11 again and only got back in as a right back at the end of the season?

Maybe it’s as Joe said to me on the coach up to Greenock that Taundry and Richards brought the worse out of each other?

The two pre-season games I saw Taundry play in one he was excellent in the other against Gretna he was anonymous throughout the game!! I hope Taundry keeps up his form throughout the season but if we can sign a creative midfielder it would be him I would look to drop given previous form.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:38 pm

Still only just summonsing the words to describe how that felt last night.

The first hour was the best i can remember us playing for a long time. Whilst Danny Wilson is saying they didn't come out for the second half, i think it was us being completely in control with wave after wave of attack. I was particularly impressed with Peterlin who looked to do everything simply but effectively. Gnapka is a typical winger in that he will frustate as much as he creates and the pivotal point in the game was his chance for three-nil: they would have been dead and buried.

Once the first went in though, we sat deeper and deeper and the ball wasn't sticking to men as it had been previously and the second and third were inevitable. Fair play though as we gave it a go at the death but it wasn't to be.

Disappointed but heartened-we need to take that forward to Saturday and get something against Yeovil.

Oh and top support: sung myself daft, have some newly acquired bruises and a sore throat today

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:04 pm

Obviously totally gutted we didn't get anything from the game , plenty of positives to take from by all accounts a super performance .

Always knew Taundry had the makings of a decent player marvelous what a good manager can do .

Onwards and upwards .

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:13 pm

WFC_Rob wrote:I said at the time, Taundry was much improved within days of Smith taking over from Hutchings. The fact that Richards was still in the team at that point goes to show that a change to the management style was all it took to give Taundry a boost.

He's always had ability, but missed having someone to talk him through his performances in terms of what works best for the team.

I'm absolutely delighted to hear how well he's been playing so far and look forward to seeing more of the same on Saturday.


I ain't ever gonna slag a player for putting 100% in but to be a professional player they also need some skill.

Hopefully Taundry is gonna acquire some of the latter. If so, we will have a decent player.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:06 pm

Not had a chance to read the thread yet, but I must mention that that performance was the best I have seen from a Walsall team for many a year, we ran the show for most of the game, and but for the ridiculous ten minute spell when we effectively lost the match by sitting back and trying to defend, we were fantastic.It was us that looked like prospective League Champions. I am very encouraged and feel we are in for a good season, and certainly wont be amonst the bottom dregs THIS year. However I am still adamant that United will win the league, and with luck like that it'll be a certainty.
Come on you Reds!!!! I believe!!! no more negativity from me matey boys!! Well done Deano, we ahve a footy team at last! :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:30 pm

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I ain't ever gonna slag a player for putting 100% in but to be a professional player they also need some skill.

Hopefully Taundry is gonna acquire some of the latter. If so, we will have a decent player.


You slagged Corica enough and he gave 100% and had loads of skill. (You didnt appreciate it though) :wink:

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:32 pm

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tinned wrote:
I ain't ever gonna slag a player for putting 100% in but to be a professional player they also need some skill.

Hopefully Taundry is gonna acquire some of the latter. If so, we will have a decent player.


You slagged Corica enough and he gave 100% and had loads of skill. (You didnt appreciate it though) :wink:


Did he fudge! He only tried half the time. The rest he tried to hide and keep out of the way.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:36 pm

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SheffieldSaddler wrote:
tinned wrote:
I ain't ever gonna slag a player for putting 100% in but to be a professional player they also need some skill.

Hopefully Taundry is gonna acquire some of the latter. If so, we will have a decent player.


You slagged Corica enough and he gave 100% and had loads of skill. (You didnt appreciate it though) :wink:


Did he flip! He only tried half the time. The rest he tried to hide and keep out of the way.


Thats the (You didnt appreciate it though) part of my post!
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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:37 pm

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tinned wrote:
SheffieldSaddler wrote:
tinned wrote:
I ain't ever gonna slag a player for putting 100% in but to be a professional player they also need some skill.

Hopefully Taundry is gonna acquire some of the latter. If so, we will have a decent player.


You slagged Corica enough and he gave 100% and had loads of skill. (You didnt appreciate it though) :wink:


Did he flip! He only tried half the time. The rest he tried to hide and keep out of the way.


Thats the (You didnt appreciate it though) part of my post!
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You're right, I didn't appreciate him swinging the lead, the little lazy Aussie &*!%$ :D

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Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:54 pm

deanonev69 wrote:Still only just summonsing the words to describe how that felt last night.

The first hour was the best i can remember us playing for a long time. Whilst Danny Wilson is saying they didn't come out for the second half, i think it was us being completely in control with wave after wave of attack. I was particularly impressed with Peterlin who looked to do everything simply but effectively. Gnapka is a typical winger in that he will frustate as much as he creates and the pivotal point in the game was his chance for three-nil: they would have been dead and buried.

Once the first went in though, we sat deeper and deeper and the ball wasn't sticking to men as it had been previously and the second and third were inevitable. Fair play though as we gave it a go at the death but it wasn't to be.

Disappointed but heartened-we need to take that forward to Saturday and get something against Yeovil.

Oh and top support: sung myself daft, have some newly acquired bruises and a sore throat today

Just the way I felt after last night,(Incidentally I only live 30 odd miles away, but din't get home until after Midnight thanks to the totally incompetent closing of the MI down to one lane...to clean the gutters out!)
Devastated by the result, but delighted by the quality that the team showed, we were so on top at one stage that the home supporters were begining to boo their team (anyone else notice that? as well as the 'HAND BALL' nonsense, didn't we make a mockery of that stupidity eh!) Just a point about the home support...talk about loud, it was like having a 12th man!
VERY impressed,most fabulous home support I have witnessed for years, and if there was supposedly only 16,000 there last night they must have the same accountants as Notts County! We did our bit, but a few hundred aye gonna make much of impression in all that noise...my ear drums are as sore as my throat!!
If we can find a decent striker from somewhere, miracles might happen, but as things stand, no matter how well the team plays, if we cor stick it in the net more often, like we should have done last night, we aye gonna see much success.
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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:54 pm

Coricack.

Average in the A League when he came home.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Wed Aug 17, 2011 8:56 pm

Sorry Deano, quote system seems to have gone awry!!! :oops:

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:48 am

Highlights here

http://www.skysports.com/football/match ... 66,00.html


Harsh penalty, Gnakpa should have scored, my gran could score that.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:50 am

Ancient Moaner wrote:Not had a chance to read the thread yet, but I must mention that that performance was the best I have seen from a Walsall team for many a year, we ran the show for most of the game, and but for the ridiculous ten minute spell when we effectively lost the match by sitting back and trying to defend, we were fantastic.It was us that looked like prospective League Champions. I am very encouraged and feel we are in for a good season, and certainly wont be amonst the bottom dregs THIS year. However I am still adamant that United will win the league, and with luck like that it'll be a certainty.
Come on you Reds!!!! I believe!!! no more negativity from me matey boys!! Well done Deano, we ahve a footy team at last! :D :D :D :D :D


Is this really the same Ancient Moaner we all know and love?!! :D :wink:

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

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latviancheese wrote:Highlights here

http://www.skysports.com/football/match ... 66,00.html


Harsh penalty, Gnakpa should have scored, my gran could score that.


Great highlights there. How did Gnakpa miss that?!? Looks like we played well - maybe a bigger pitch helps us, who knows.

Good to see Hurst getting more involved in the action and Grigg to get a goal. Think it was a pen to be honest - pretty clear that he was being blocked / ushed off by Sadler as he had got past him.

Encouraging performance overall though, as others have said.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

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Good to see Hurst getting more involved in the action and Grigg to get a goal. Think it was a pen to be honest - pretty clear that he was being blocked / ushed off by Sadler as he had got past him.



Oh i think it was a penalty, but the ref should have played on :P . It was just one of those penalties where you think "oh for god sake at least flatten him properly".

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:19 am

Jolly Johnny wrote:
latviancheese wrote:Highlights here

http://www.skysports.com/football/match ... 66,00.html


Harsh penalty, Gnakpa should have scored, my gran could score that.


Great highlights there. How did Gnakpa miss that?!? Looks like we played well - maybe a bigger pitch helps us, who knows.

Good to see Hurst getting more involved in the action and Grigg to get a goal. Think it was a pen to be honest - pretty clear that he was being blocked / ushed off by Sadler as he had got past him.

Encouraging performance overall though, as others have said.


No doubt it was a penalty in my mind. And if it had happened to any of our players in Uniteds box I would have expected a penalty to.

Not sure how he missed it either. It was the defining moment of the match as no way on earth they would have come back from 3-0.

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Re: Sheffield United (A) League 1 Tuesday 16/8/11.

Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:44 pm

I also think it was a penalty, I actually think the ref had a decent game. He was our best ref of the season, not that the previous benchmark was terribly high. Would have liked to have seen the tackle on Sadler in the first half included in the highlights, as I think he got that right too but Deano seemed to think it was a red (and as he thought Chambers wasn't then it must have been a bad tackle, unless he watches the match through red tinted specs).

Gnakpa didn't miss that chance, the keeper saved it. Corner was given. Agree he shouldn't have really given him a chance with it though.

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