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Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:30 pm

Ancient Moaner wrote:Where are all all strikers then, "give the youngsters a chance" everyone has mooted...well, we have Paterson Grigg and Bowerman up front, and who scores? Hurst. says it all really, lead wow last.

Are you listening to the game? Sounds like we are all over them and apparently Paterson is having a decent game too. If anything it sounds as if we're on for a second goal here.
You like to live up to your name, I'll give you that.
EDIT: The chances are they'll score now I have posted this..

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:37 pm

Im expecting Wycombe to score before the end...

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:39 pm

DanWalsallFC wrote:
Ancient Moaner wrote:Where are all all strikers then, "give the youngsters a chance" everyone has mooted...well, we have Paterson Grigg and Bowerman up front, and who scores? Hurst. says it all really, lead wow last.

Are you listening to the game? Sounds like we are all over them and apparently Paterson is having a decent game too. If anything it sounds as if we're on for a second goal here.
You like to live up to your name, I'll give you that.EDIT: The chances are they'll score now I have posted this..


What are you saying? you oviously missed Tuesdays example of exhibition football then? :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:44 pm

BarnsleySaddler wrote:All we need is Rochdale to score and we are bottom of the table.


All we need is for Orient to score and we are out of the relegation zone :D

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:44 pm

2-0. Bowerman!

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:44 pm

Thank fudge for that :D

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:46 pm

PINNACLE wrote:
BarnsleySaddler wrote:All we need is Rochdale to score and we are bottom of the table.


All we need is for Orient to score and we are out of the relegation zone :D


And with that, Scunthorpe take the lead :evil:

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:48 pm

DanWalsallFC wrote:2-0. Bowerman!



Two goals in one match? they'll have to go for a long lie down after this, and take some 'downers' to stop the adrenalin surge! :D :D :D

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:51 pm

chestersaddler wrote:
PINNACLE wrote:
BarnsleySaddler wrote:All we need is Rochdale to score and we are bottom of the table.


All we need is for Orient to score and we are out of the relegation zone :D


And with that, Scunthorpe take the lead :evil:


Bloody typical :oops:

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:53 pm

PINNACLE wrote:
chestersaddler wrote:
PINNACLE wrote:
BarnsleySaddler wrote:All we need is Rochdale to score and we are bottom of the table.


All we need is for Orient to score and we are out of the relegation zone :D


And with that, Scunthorpe take the lead :evil:


Bloody typical :oops:


Not trying to rub it in, but they are now 3-1 up :wink:

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:54 pm

PINNACLE wrote:
chestersaddler wrote:
PINNACLE wrote:
BarnsleySaddler wrote:All we need is Rochdale to score and we are bottom of the table.


All we need is for Orient to score and we are out of the relegation zone :D


And with that, Scunthorpe take the lead :evil:


Bloody typical :oops:


Now 3-1 up, looks like we need a miracle win on Tuesday night or the games up!

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:57 pm

Ancient Moaner wrote:
PINNACLE wrote:
chestersaddler wrote:
PINNACLE wrote:
BarnsleySaddler wrote:All we need is Rochdale to score and we are bottom of the table.


All we need is for Orient to score and we are out of the relegation zone :D


And with that, Scunthorpe take the lead :evil:


Bloody typical :oops:


Now 3-1 up, looks like we need a miracle win on Tuesday night or the games up!


What ?

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:57 pm

Looks to me like Oldham will be the team to catch, they were VERY poor on Tuesday night , as shown by the hammerin they are gettin today.
Crikey, a note of optimism from MOG! :) must take some more tablets.....

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:58 pm

2-0 FT

Play off contenders :D

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:59 pm

Pinnacle, Scunny re scheduled match.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:00 pm

Effing cack

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:00 pm

chestersaddler wrote:2-0 FT

Play off contenders :D


For what may I ask. Cabbage of the week.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:02 pm

Ancient Moaner wrote:Pinnacle, Scunny re scheduled match.


I know that but its hardly game up if we lose :roll:

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:03 pm

Rochdale scored...utter cack......

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Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:05 pm

PINNACLE wrote:
Ancient Moaner wrote:Pinnacle, Scunny re scheduled match.


I know that but its hardly game up if we lose :roll:



Would open up a 5 point gap, and with this being only our 5th win this season, it would take some catchin, very sad but very true.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 5:06 pm

PINNACLE wrote:
Ancient Moaner wrote:Pinnacle, Scunny re scheduled match.


I know that but its hardly game up if we lose :roll:

It could well be, as the three teams above us have all won today, meaning if we lose we go at least five points adrift. Can't see this team pulling back that kind of deficit.

That said, excellent and much needed result today. How did the protests go?

Edit: The two sides below us both won too so Wycombe go bottom, five points from safety having played three games more. I think they're gone.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:06 pm

Be interested to know how we played. Sounds from the reports like we carried on attacking after we took the lead and killed the game off with Bowerman's goal. If so, that's the first time we've done that all season. Let's hope Smith has learnt that lesson. Now let's see if he can work out how to win away from home.

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Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:18 pm

First half seemed like we felt them out and after a promising 20 minutes, the game turned into a battle of attrition until half time.

Second half started the same way but then it dawned on us that we could just run through their midfield. Think Paterson ran through and was pushed once outside but then seemed to be pushed again in the box and he went down. My opinion: penalty.

Must admit, I don't watch penalties but I've had two people call it cack and one (Saigon) call it good. Take your own thoughts from that.

Then the laws of physics were broken. Hurst shot and it was bending everywhere. Keeper stayed still and I jumped around.

Second goal was a nice little intricate passing move between Macken and Bowerman, Bowerman finishing from 8 yards.

Should've won, did win, going to drink.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:20 pm

An uninspiring game between two cautious teams, scared of making mistakes. We deserved the win as we were less bad than a dreadful Wycombe team. The Chairboys' first and only on-target attempt on our goal came in the 87th minute, although, to be fair, they had a couple of attempts narrowly wide. We totally dominated the second half but it was symptomatic of our lack of self-confidence that there were rarely sufficient of our players in their penalty-area when we sent in early crosses - too scared of making a mistake and missing a chance.

Grof - nothing to do

Taundry - back in his old position; steady performance; very few mistakes; rarely supported the attack.
Lancashire - a little "rusty" but generally coped well.
Butler - his usual performance with no expensive blunders, this time.
Sadler - defended well but, like Taundry, rarely supported the attack.

Cuvelier - confident and skilful on the ball; adds a lot to the midfield as long as he has a "minder" alongside him.
Chambers - tackled well in his defensive midfield rôle but his distribution let him down - he couldn't pass water!
Hurst - workmanlike performance topped off with a remarkable goal (what was the Wycombe goalkeeper thinking of?)

Patterson - in a roaming, free rôle, just behind the front two; showed a lot of skill and, unlike most of his team-mates, the self-confidence to have a go at goal. Sponsors' MotM (I agree).

Grigg - poor first half but "woke up" after the interval; not sure if he is the right player to partner Nicholls
Nicholls - yet another weak, woeful penalty attempt,fortunately not expensive this time, unlike his two previous misses.

Macken (for Grigg) -laid on Bowerman's goal
Peterlin (for Patterson) - only on for stoppage time
Bowerman (for Nicholls) - added a lot of energy and took his goal well, following a sublime pass from Granddad!

We looked better when we eschewed the hoofball game and played it on the ground. Aimless punts upfield, particularly against knuckle-scraping Neanderthals, like Laing, Winfield and Basey, are never going to yield dividends. Unfortunately, Scunthorpe's win at Orient, today, will give them confidence for Tuesday's game so we will have to build on this performance.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:42 pm

That'll do nicely (and much needed given other results today).

First half was utterly forgettable with two teams i said are destined for League 2. However, whilst Wycombe's second half performance did little to make me believe my half time prediction was incorrect, we came out and played much better, buoyed on by Hurst's goal.

Like the kid from Stjoke: everything positive seemed to come through him and Paterson (albeit the latter needs to pass more in and around the box). Grigg improved as game wore on and was pleased to see Bowerman get his goal (surely he's worth a start Smith?) My man of the match was Sadler who was up and down that left wing like a Merry Man's backside.

However, need something on Tuesday. I wouldn't discount us from getting something at PNE next Saturday either.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:44 pm

It looked for a while, particularly with the penalty miss, that we might fail once again to convert any of the chances we were creating, but fortunately that wasn't the case and we were able to hold off an extremely poor Wycombe side, who were worse than us in every department. We were never troubled at the back, but I don't think we can take that much comfort from the performance elsewhere. Patterson had his best game in ages but until the goal was our only attacking threat. Then we remembered how to pass the ball to our own players and caused some problems, boosted by Macken replacing the hopeless Nicholls. Many said he needed a long run in the team to show how good he could be, now he's had a very long run in the team and has shown precisely how good he is (i.e. not at all). He now needs a long run out of the team. Macken showed that he's our smartest player with the pass to Bowerman for the goal, but sadly we've seen this season that his legs have gone so we still need to find some combination of strikers that might be effective. Grigg did OK in the second half, he deserves to keep his place, but lord knows who should play alongside him on Tuesday. Bowerman I guess would be the popular choice - he took his goal very well today, put himself about a bit for the inevitable long balls a lot more effectively than either Grigg or Nicholls, so perhaps it's time for him to get his chance from the start. Cuvelier has a bit about him in midfield, but better teams than Wycombe (and there are 23 of them in League One) would exploit the spaces he leaves behind so we'd need to be careful about that.

You can do no more than beat the team in front of you and regardless of how poor the opposition was, obviously it's great to finally win a game, but I won't be getting carried away - there is a huge amount to do if we're to have any chance of avoiding joining the Chairboys in League Two next season.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:44 pm

...and the play-off surge begins.. :lol: 8)

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:02 pm

FIrst half was so short of quality, it gave us an insight into what most games will be like if we go down. Wycombe were dreadful and whilst we did at least look to attack, we didn't have the craft of guile to muster anything other than long range shots from outside the box.

The front two offered absolutely nothing in the first half and whilst we weren't troubled at the back, the likes of Cuvelier and Paterson couldn't create chances for an ineffective front two.

The penalty decision in the second half was the correct one, but Nicholls taking it was ludicrous. His miss capped off a completely shambolic performance and if I'm honest, I can't remember a Walsall striker with less killer instinct in front of goal. Of course, plenty will argue that at least he was 'brave' enough to take the penalty in the first place, but bravery is irrelevant if the end result is useless.

Yet again, everyone improved when Bowerman came on. He's nothing spectacular but he makes intelligent runs and just tries to score goals. His first touch was a header on target and he took his goal excellently after the cleverest of passes from Macken. Whilst Grigg also looked much better when Bowerman came on, Macken and Bowerman are by far our best two strikers - hopefully the penny will drop with Smith now.

It wasn't all about Bowerman though. Hurst's strike was one of the strangest I've ever seen - it seemed to zig-zag through the air and into the middle of the goal. Paterson and Cuvelier also tried to take the game to Wycombe whenever they could, which is what we should be doing more at home. Let's stop worrying about what our opposition might do and start stringing some positive performances together. I'll probably get slated for this, but I also thought Chambers had a really effective game - he completely nulified their midfield and kept things neat and tidy. Yes, he does give the ball away a little too often, but he's at his best when he's combative - as he was this afternoon.

So lessons can be learned following that performance. We're relegation certainties if Smith persists with Nicholls up front, but we might just scrape to survival if we play with a bit more positivity.

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:11 pm

Apparently Manny Smith was dropped for homophobic abuse towards a Walsall fan on Twitter.
I have read it and it's disgusting, notice Jamie Paterson stuck his ore in too on it. Wonder if this could go any further...

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Re: Wycombe Wanderers (H) Leage 1 Saturday 18/2/12.

Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:14 pm

Good three points today but, we need to follow this result up at Scunny or it's gonna mean nowt, especially when teams around us fudge won also, the Scunthorpe!

Was too late to book my coach for PNE also, gutted. Thought we'd have had more than one on for this game, seemed like it was needed with a few behind me turned down also, blah got Orient tickets anyways...

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