STANDING CONTINGENT APPEAL

[cumbria-saddler]

When its freezing, its warmer to stand up too :D

[kpritchard05]

Why bring this up now? The seats have been there for 10/11 years or more and for most of the time people have stood in block 3 and 4 its not like its a new craze thats suddenly happened, yet year in year out you continue to still have the same seat knowing full well what's going to happen and you think a poll on here will change that. Yes people should not stand up but they/we do so more fool you for continuing to purchase the same seat knowing full well that your view will be obstructed. Sorry. If I ever felt the need to start sitting at every game or hopefully have a little one with me to take then I would just simply move to another block or area where our views are not restricted, simple really. And I agree that the wording of the poll is wrong and seems to have been put together by someone in Scotland :shock:

its only this season that its been this bad and again i'm a seasn ticket holder so why should i move as most of these idiots who are standing don't have season tickets so they have the freedom of choosing a ticket anywhere in the ground so if they should feel free to stand choose a ticket where you will not be obstructing someone's view!

[windowman]

I agree with this post. Why do people think they have the right to stand in front of other paying spectators. Do they stand up at the cinema too? Until they re-introduce standing areas be fair to others and sit down.

I went to the Shrewsbury match with my eight year old and got stuck behind two rows of lads who insisted on standing up. He couldn't see a blinking thing for most to of the match. I don't think I would have had much joy in getting the two rows in front of me to sit down if I'd asked them. We couldn't move as there were no other seats available.

ds,how do you compare a football match to the cinema ? thank god we do have some standers/singers or else it would be like the cinema :roll: theres always the oap stand

Well, I think it would be a jolly good idea to serve popcorn and have a lady with a tray of choc-ices standing behind the goal at half time. :roll: Good grief, does my comparison really need explaining???

yes. i dont see it

Go and buy a ticket for Les Mis and I'll come and stand in front of you. I will then admire your resolve as you move to another seat without a word of complaint. Wot? No standing areas in the cinema? Well, never mind those pesky rules were made to be broken.

what the phook has it got to do with the cinema, if there was 200 youths shouting and standing and singing while im trying to watch dirty dancing id go somewhere else, but if they are doing it a footie match id expect it,probs because its a footie match :lol: :roll:

[WFC_Rob]

Can't believe there's five pages of discussion on this one - there's a game of football to talk about over on the other side. :lol:

[kpritchard05]

unfortunately there are too many saying move your seat when either these people:
a- don't sit in the block 4
b- don't have a season ticket and buy game by game tickets so can afford to move their seat unlike me as i don't want to move
c- don't attend
d- do stand and couldn't be bothered to sit as by standing obscure people's view

so inconclusion if you want to sing move to block 1 or 6 as it won't obscure peoples views as plenty of empty seats there and wouldn't do any harm to the atmosphere as would be able to sing your heart out down there and therefore would keep everybody happy.

[Cuzo24]

the worse thing is , we could be 1 point off the play offs by the next home game and no doubt the stewards will try and make evryone sit down , atmosphere will be cack , just so someone can stay in that 1 seat , are we allowed to stand when we score? because technically with the rulebook someone posted earlier above , it doesnt say anything about it being legal to stand if we score or get a corner. what a joke!

[IHTC.]

Why bring this up now? The seats have been there for 10/11 years or more and for most of the time people have stood in block 3 and 4 its not like its a new craze thats suddenly happened, yet year in year out you continue to still have the same seat knowing full well what's going to happen and you think a poll on here will change that. Yes people should not stand up but they/we do so more fool you for continuing to purchase the same seat knowing full well that your view will be obstructed. Sorry. If I ever felt the need to start sitting at every game or hopefully have a little one with me to take then I would just simply move to another block or area where our views are not restricted, simple really. And I agree that the wording of the poll is wrong and seems to have been put together by someone in Scotland :shock:

1. its only this season that its been this bad and again i'm a seasn ticket holder so why should i move as most of these 2. idiots who are standing 3. don't have season tickets so they have the freedom of choosing a ticket anywhere in the ground so if they should feel free to stand choose a ticket where you will not be obstructing someone's view!

1. Disagree
2. these so called 'idiots' are the only ones trying to give the place an atmosphere. The Corpes Stand is available for dead wood.
3. How do you know?

[Magic Man Fan]

I'm not going to read this nothingness of a thread. Get a grip FFS, its football not bingo. This kind of poncy attitude is killing the working man's game. Plenty of other areas to sit where your (or your kid's) view won't be obstructed. Away games are different because you're often lumped into one area, so fans are more considerate then, if asked to sit.

[King Crimson]

Ok King crimson lets put it simply. Do you stand up in the lower stand?

No.

I have season tickets for me and the princes in row A of the middle tier. Great view, and no one will ever stand in front of us.

[King Crimson]

I'm not going to read this nothingness of a thread. Get a grip FFS, its football not bingo. This kind of poncy attitude is killing the working man's game. Plenty of other areas to sit where your (or your kid's) view won't be obstructed. Away games are different because you're often lumped into one area, so fans are more considerate then, if asked to sit.

Agree.

This thread is embarrassing.

[mrgoose]

Good Lad, because what I was going to say is it is a matter of courtesy if people are asked to sit down politely and they refuse that is just ignorance and inconsideration for fellow Walsall supporters. I will be moving to upper by the looks of things but I will look at some of our supporters in different light now. Maybe the likes of the standups is what is keeping fans away.

[IHTC.]

Let's these jobsworths write their letters to the club (got to be better than writing and polling on a forum) and the club will force stewards to make people sit which will then kill whatever atmosphere is left. If these 'idiots' then refuse they will be escorted from the ground which will alienate them and perhaps force them to be stay-aways so not only will we have a group of stay-aways because they are doing right by the club :roll: but you will have a break-away stayaway group (only at WFC) because they are not allowed too stand and try and create an atmosphere. ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC!

heaven forbid if someone try's to open a bag of opal fruits :roll:

[We-ARE-Walsall]

Good Lad, because what I was going to say is it is a matter of courtesy if people are asked to sit down politely and they refuse that is just ignorance and inconsideration for fellow Walsall supporters. I will be moving to upper by the looks of things but I will look at some of our supporters in different light now. Maybe the likes of the standups is what is keeping fans away.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiCiigrD9R8[/youtube]

[IHTC.]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNVcSIZyBuE[/youtube]

[kpritchard05]

Why bring this up now? The seats have been there for 10/11 years or more and for most of the time people have stood in block 3 and 4 its not like its a new craze thats suddenly happened, yet year in year out you continue to still have the same seat knowing full well what's going to happen and you think a poll on here will change that. Yes people should not stand up but they/we do so more fool you for continuing to purchase the same seat knowing full well that your view will be obstructed. Sorry. If I ever felt the need to start sitting at every game or hopefully have a little one with me to take then I would just simply move to another block or area where our views are not restricted, simple really. And I agree that the wording of the poll is wrong and seems to have been put together by someone in Scotland :shock:

1. its only this season that its been this bad and again i'm a seasn ticket holder so why should i move as most of these 2. idiots who are standing 3. don't have season tickets so they have the freedom of choosing a ticket anywhere in the ground so if they should feel free to stand choose a ticket where you will not be obstructing someone's view!

1. Disagree
2. these so called 'idiots' are the only ones trying to give the place an atmosphere. The Corpes Stand is available for dead wood.
3. How do you know?

so where do you sit do you sit in block 4? these idiots can sit down and do they really need to get up about 2 foot just to clap and sing? there are means and ways of knowing that they buy game by game.

[brummie saddler]

my personal experiences/views of this is........

if i turn around to see a poor soul sat behind me then i will look to squeeze closer to my mate next to me to enable them a view, but if that's not possible then i will personally battle with my conscience and stand up if i feel theres an atmosphere to join in with and make better, if its a shite game then i will sit back on my seat.

people who do it are not really total heartless or inconsiderate bastards, its just a case of they pay their money just as much for that match day experience as they do to sit down and watch 22 men battle it out. and ultimately if someone really has got a massive problem then surely they can see there's plenty of other seats to use.

singers being in block four behind the goal is simply walsall fc.......

[IHTC.]

Why bring this up now? The seats have been there for 10/11 years or more and for most of the time people have stood in block 3 and 4 its not like its a new craze thats suddenly happened, yet year in year out you continue to still have the same seat knowing full well what's going to happen and you think a poll on here will change that. Yes people should not stand up but they/we do so more fool you for continuing to purchase the same seat knowing full well that your view will be obstructed. Sorry. If I ever felt the need to start sitting at every game or hopefully have a little one with me to take then I would just simply move to another block or area where our views are not restricted, simple really. And I agree that the wording of the poll is wrong and seems to have been put together by someone in Scotland :shock:

1. its only this season that its been this bad and again i'm a seasn ticket holder so why should i move as most of these 2. idiots who are standing 3. don't have season tickets so they have the freedom of choosing a ticket anywhere in the ground so if they should feel free to stand choose a ticket where you will not be obstructing someone's view!

1. Disagree
2. these so called 'idiots' are the only ones trying to give the place an atmosphere. The Corpes Stand is available for dead wood.
3. How do you know?

so where do you sit do you sit in block 4? these idiots can sit down and do they really need to get up about 2 foot just to clap and sing? there are means and ways of knowing that they buy game by game.

If im not at work in the Wheelchair access area than im in block 3 standing on the very back row, if I had people sat behind me I would be extremely aware of that and sit down to be polite BUT if I had others standing infront of me then I would do the same as im not having my view blocked for anyone else.

[Bernie]

The solution to this problem is the introduction of safe standing areas.

Until that happens then it is only reasonable for people who have bought tickets in any of the seated areas to be expect to be able to see the match while they are sitting down.

The club could enforce the rule among home fans if it wanted to, since it knows the names of everyone who buys a season ticket, and it is mainly the same people who are standing in the seated area behind the goals each week. The people to target for enforcement of this rule would be those who are in the first "standing" row. I notice that usually in the first few rows behind the goal the people are sitting. Once a few in the fourth or fifth row back decide to stand, even though nobody in front of them is standing, those who are behind them have little choice but to stand up also.

[derbysaddler]

And another thing, at half time some fans go into the cubicles but for a number one not a number two. This in my mind is totally inconsiderate to others that want to use the cubicle for a number two, they should use the urinals. It's certainly changed my opinion of some of our so called ' supporters' and I will pursuing this with the club. Perhaps we need toilet stewards.

Disgusted of Derbyshire.

[IHTC.]

The solution to this problem is the introduction of safe standing areas.

Until that happens then it is only reasonable for people who have bought tickets in any of the seated areas to be expect to be able to see the match while they are sitting down.

The club could enforce the rule among home fans if it wanted to, since it knows the names of everyone who buys a season ticket, and it is mainly the same people who are standing in the seated area behind the goals each week. The people to target for enforcement of this rule would be those who are in the first "standing" row. I notice that usually in the first few rows behind the goal the people are sitting. Once a few in the fourth or fifth row back decide to stand, even though nobody in front of them is standing, those who are behind them have little choice but to stand up also.

This is almost virtually a NO-NO (at the moment and WFC was not one of the clubs that backed the idea) according to Gamble at the last meeting (reasons for which I cannot remember, but probably cost :lol: )

[mrbwfc]

This is a joke its a football match people stand simple.

It creates the only bit of atmosphere at home and shouldn't be stopped it's not just 10 or 20 that stand there is pockets in most blocks in the lower and 200 in block 4. There is plenty of places in the lower where u can see the whole game unaffected also loads of space all round the ground.

Also to in force everyone must sit policy the club would need more stewards (a pointless cost to the club). You wouldn't have got Oldham to sit down yesterday and you certainly won't get a chunk of us to sit at donny next week!

[kpritchard05]

The solution to this problem is the introduction of safe standing areas.

Until that happens then it is only reasonable for people who have bought tickets in any of the seated areas to be expect to be able to see the match while they are sitting down.

The club could enforce the rule among home fans if it wanted to, since it knows the names of everyone who buys a season ticket, and it is mainly the same people who are standing in the seated area behind the goals each week. The people to target for enforcement of this rule would be those who are in the first "standing" row. I notice that usually in the first few rows behind the goal the people are sitting. Once a few in the fourth or fifth row back decide to stand, even though nobody in front of them is standing, those who are behind them have little choice but to stand up also.

very well said bernie, the club know the people who stand up and they should be told to sit down or to move to another part of the ground where they can stand up and not annoy anyone

[King Crimson]

very well said bernie, the club know the people who stand up and they should be told to sit down or to move to another part of the ground where they can stand up and not annoy me.

Fixed that for you.

[kpritchard05]

This is a joke its a football match people stand simple.

It creates the only bit of atmosphere at home and shouldn't be stopped it's not just 10 or 20 that stand there is pockets in most blocks in the lower and 200 in block 4. There is plenty of places in the lower where u can see the whole game unaffected also loads of space all round the ground.

Also to in force everyone must sit policy the club would need more stewards (a pointless cost to the club). You wouldn't have got Oldham to sit down yesterday and you certainly won't get a chunk of us to sit at donny next week!

Just remind people again as some people aren't relising that you agree to the ground regulation when you enter the ground:

The following acts are arrestable offences under the Football (Offences) Act 1991, as amended:

Nobody may stand in any seating area whilst play is in progress.Persistent standing in seated areas whilst play is in progress is strictly forbidden and may result in ejection from the Ground.

& also:

The Club reserves absolutely the right to eject from the Ground any person failing to comply with any of the Ground Regulations or whose presence within the Ground is, or could, reasonably be construed as constituting a source of danger, nuisance or annoyance to any other person.This could lead to further action by the Club including, but not limited to, the withdrawal of any season ticket (without reimbursement) and other benefits.


Entry to the Ground shall constitute acceptance of the Ground Regulations.

[mrbwfc]

So your saying next game you would rather every sit down in silence?

[DonningtonSaddler]

very well said bernie, the club know the people who stand up and they should be told to sit down or to move to another part of the ground where they can stand up and not annoy me.

Fixed that for you.

How are you able to change the wording on peoples posts?

[Darth Vader]

This is a joke its a football match people stand simple.

It creates the only bit of atmosphere at home and shouldn't be stopped it's not just 10 or 20 that stand there is pockets in most blocks in the lower and 200 in block 4. There is plenty of places in the lower where u can see the whole game unaffected also loads of space all round the ground.

Also to in force everyone must sit policy the club would need more stewards (a pointless cost to the club). You wouldn't have got Oldham to sit down yesterday and you certainly won't get a chunk of us to sit at donny next week!

They'll be no problem at Doncaster, our own supporters sit where they like the same as most away games, we won't sell out so the more active fans go towards the back, the rest middle - downwards, unfortunately not something that can be done at home games due to miserable sitters choosing the back row as their spot and proceed to cack blood when someone is standing around them. It's actually a bit thick. I was front row behind the goal for years when I was a youngster, so I could see the game and not be on my feet all game. I knew the score then, and so did my dad, we chose that spot and moved further up when I could see and enjoy the atmosphere (lol) a bit more. Common sense prevails! :D

It has only been the past two seasons that most of block 4 are standing up, and I think it was an effort to help the drab atmosphere out, should all know it is more or less the 'unofficial singing block' and all know what to expect when you are in or around that certain area (it is the home end ffs), we have a lot more up on our feet all game than most in this league I have found, would obviously be better for all if they spread the standing over two blocks so no views would be obstructed, but it can't be done due to obviously reasons. So all you can do is stand up too and just maybe get a bit of football culture inside your petty self, or unfortunately move, cause you don't run down the only consistent vocal part of the ground. That's coming from someone who isn't even in Block 4 any more either.

[Welsh_Saddler]

very well said bernie, the club know the people who stand up and they should be told to sit down or to move to another part of the ground where they can stand up and not annoy me.

Fixed that for you.

How are you able to change the wording on peoples posts?

Moderator power!!!!!!! :D

[Magic Man Fan]

very well said bernie, the club know the people who stand up and they should be told to sit down or to move to another part of the ground where they can stand up and not annoy me.

Fixed that for you.

How are you able to change the wording on peoples posts?

By using his intelligence, and the quote function.

[King Crimson]

very well said bernie, the club know the people who stand up and they should be told to sit down or to move to another part of the ground where they can stand up and not annoy me.

Fixed that for you.

How are you able to change the wording on peoples posts?

Moderator power!!!!!!! :D

Christ, please don't even joke about it.

To answer the question correctly, when you quote text, you can edit, delete, copy, paste text from the quotation as though it were your own.

It's how loads of posters submit their predictions for the prediction league: quote all the fixtures, delete the ones you don't want, add your scores, delete the [quote=...] at one end and [/quote... jobbie at the other, and you're away.