Bristol Fan wrote:Undoubted highlight was Operation Forge.
Not for me. I can only describe the stewards' efforts to see if I'd smuggled a bottle top into the ground as 'invasive'. :(
:D
Bristol Fan wrote:Undoubted highlight was Operation Forge.
King Crimson wrote:Bristol Fan wrote:Undoubted highlight was Operation Forge.
Not for me. I can only describe the stewards' efforts to see if I'd smuggled a bottle top into the ground as 'invasive'. :(
:D
cal wfc fan wrote:I don't think Gillmartin had any chance at saving the goal.
Bristol Fan wrote:cal wfc fan wrote:I don't think Gillmartin had any chance at saving the goal.
Seriously? Looked like it should have been a regulation save to me but perhaps I missed something.
On the subject of Gilmartin, while I don't think he should have let that goal in, I was very disappointed to hear the reaction from fans and our bench to his kicking, which wasn't great in any sense, but was probably better than Ince's - who rarely gets criticised for it.
WFC_Rob wrote:Bristol Fan wrote:cal wfc fan wrote:I don't think Gillmartin had any chance at saving the goal.
Seriously? Looked like it should have been a regulation save to me but perhaps I missed something.
On the subject of Gilmartin, while I don't think he should have let that goal in, I was very disappointed to hear the reaction from fans and our bench to his kicking, which wasn't great in any sense, but was probably better than Ince's - who rarely gets criticised for it.
I agree with all of that. Thought Gilmartin had more than enough time to see the shot coming, and has the height to have been able to reach it anyway. That ignores the fact that Hughes or Mattis should have closed their midfielder down in the first place, but I still think he had more than enough chance.
Magic Man Fan wrote:WFC_Rob wrote:Bristol Fan wrote:cal wfc fan wrote:I don't think Gillmartin had any chance at saving the goal.
Seriously? Looked like it should have been a regulation save to me but perhaps I missed something.
On the subject of Gilmartin, while I don't think he should have let that goal in, I was very disappointed to hear the reaction from fans and our bench to his kicking, which wasn't great in any sense, but was probably better than Ince's - who rarely gets criticised for it.
I agree with all of that. Thought Gilmartin had more than enough time to see the shot coming, and has the height to have been able to reach it anyway. That ignores the fact that Hughes or Mattis should have closed their midfielder down in the first place, but I still think he had more than enough chance.
Gerrard was closest to the ball and should have done better, but he's not allowed to be criticised is he?
WFC_Rob wrote:Bristol Fan wrote:cal wfc fan wrote:I don't think Gillmartin had any chance at saving the goal.
Seriously? Looked like it should have been a regulation save to me but perhaps I missed something.
On the subject of Gilmartin, while I don't think he should have let that goal in, I was very disappointed to hear the reaction from fans and our bench to his kicking, which wasn't great in any sense, but was probably better than Ince's - who rarely gets criticised for it.
I agree with all of that. Thought Gilmartin had more than enough time to see the shot coming, and has the height to have been able to reach it anyway. That ignores the fact that Hughes or Mattis should have closed their midfielder down in the first place, but I still think he had more than enough chance.
As for his kicking, I thought it was a positive to take from his performance. He might have sliced one kick from his hands straight into the stand, but his kicking off the ground was very good, and as you say, was certainly better than Ince's.
If we're going to moan about distribution, we needn't look any further than Palmer, Weton and Smith - none of whom could find a white shirt at all yesterday.
WFC_Rob wrote:Magic Man Fan wrote:WFC_Rob wrote:Bristol Fan wrote:cal wfc fan wrote:I don't think Gillmartin had any chance at saving the goal.
Seriously? Looked like it should have been a regulation save to me but perhaps I missed something.
On the subject of Gilmartin, while I don't think he should have let that goal in, I was very disappointed to hear the reaction from fans and our bench to his kicking, which wasn't great in any sense, but was probably better than Ince's - who rarely gets criticised for it.
I agree with all of that. Thought Gilmartin had more than enough time to see the shot coming, and has the height to have been able to reach it anyway. That ignores the fact that Hughes or Mattis should have closed their midfielder down in the first place, but I still think he had more than enough chance.
Gerrard was closest to the ball and should have done better, but he's not allowed to be criticised is he?
Gerrard's fault it is then.
Of course he's allowed to be criticised. My recollection of the goal however, was that Hughes (or maybe Mattis) should have got a block in. If, having seen the goal for a second time, you say that Gerrard was closest to the ball, then he should be given a good talking to at training tomorrow.
Plastic Hawk wrote:Haven't seen the replay, but it wasn't in Gerrard's area of the pitch to close down (way too far out, especially from a free kick). A centre half (and probably our best header of the ball) can't come haring out of the defensive line to close down a possible shot from that distance. If the ball's chipped into the box instead then he's horribly out of position. That's a midfielders area to close down - and if Gerrard was the closest then that just means that Mattis and Hughes were positioned shockingly badly - and that was their mistake, not Gerrard's.
King Crimson wrote:Plastic Hawk wrote:Haven't seen the replay, but it wasn't in Gerrard's area of the pitch to close down (way too far out, especially from a free kick). A centre half (and probably our best header of the ball) can't come haring out of the defensive line to close down a possible shot from that distance. If the ball's chipped into the box instead then he's horribly out of position. That's a midfielders area to close down - and if Gerrard was the closest then that just means that Mattis and Hughes were positioned shockingly badly - and that was their mistake, not Gerrard's.
I agree with that. The position from which the free kick was taken must have been 35 yards out.
scott_powell wrote:the goal was unstoppable, i was behind the goal and it dipped so much in the last second, if gilmartin saved it it would of been save of the season!
fair enough we wasnt organised but who would of really shot from there!
great goal in my opinion
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