Swansea City (H) League 1- Saturday 25th August 2007

[Mr D Doffer]

:oops: Offer Here,

We have to be optimistic, even though our current form and goals scored say, we will struggle!!

Realism can also breed pessimism, so I don"t want to be realistic about our chances.

We also had a long running thread as to how important ISHY was going to be to us this season.
Fair play, he was suspended for the 1st 2 games and played a "minor" role v Orient.
SO,
If we are one up with 20 minutes to play, will he "RISK" him.
If we are one nil down with 20 minutes to play, will it be too late, If he brings him on.

What about being a little controversial and playing him from the start.

Ok , he"s young BUT he did make his goal scoring debut v Vale some 2 years ago and a call-up for the U-18"s in the same year.

He has made 47 appearances for the saddlers, amazingly 31 as substitute and just 3 goals.

Come on, lets get real, he"s either good enough ( must be, we gave him a 2 year deal ) or he"s not.

If his attidude is the real concern, it should have been dealt with by now.

For Christ sake, if everyone at the club thinks he"s such a great asset, WHY NOT GIVE A GOOD RUN @ 90 MINUTES.

At least, we all can then make an informed opinion on this lad, based on quality time spent on the field and not in the dug out.

Just a thought.

Ps, I hope to God WE WIN !!

:lol: Offer

[big baz 1]

Dd doesnt trust ishy enough to start him and dd says he has a lot to learn , but how will ishy learn if dd doesnt start him?

[Mr D Doffer]

:lol:

[Asps]

I've just been down the ground & Butler has been training all week & will start on Saturday

[WalsallCasual]

Walsall 1-2 Swansea City.

Scorer: Nicholls.


My team would be:

Ince

Weston - Dann - Roper - Boertien

Nicholls - Dobson - Sonnor - Fox

Wrack

Mooney

[Stu]

Personally, I'd still like to see us go 4-5-1, but I don't know if we're capable of playing it..

Normal back 4, middle 3 of Dobson sitting just behind Sonner and Wrack.

With Mooney the sole striker, and Ishmel plus one of Hall/Sonko supporting Mooney.

That Chelsea-esque 4-5-1 when defending, 4-3-3 when attacking.

[Willenhall Saddler]

I hate to say it, Swansea are our bogey team at the minute.So for me i`m afraid it`s another defeat.Walsall 1 Swansea 2.Sorry folks!

[Registered Saddler]

Personally, I'd still like to see us go 4-5-1, but I don't know if we're capable of playing it..

Normal back 4, middle 3 of Dobson sitting just behind Sonner and Wrack.

With Mooney the sole striker, and Ishmel plus one of Hall/Sonko supporting Mooney.

That Chelsea-esque 4-5-1 when defending, 4-3-3 when attacking.

I thoroughly agree, but I don't think Money will do it until he's tried the 4-4-2 with Butler up top alongside Mooney.

[priestley_saddler]

Personally, I'd still like to see us go 4-5-1, but I don't know if we're capable of playing it..

Normal back 4, middle 3 of Dobson sitting just behind Sonner and Wrack.

With Mooney the sole striker, and Ishmel plus one of Hall/Sonko supporting Mooney.

That Chelsea-esque 4-5-1 when defending, 4-3-3 when attacking.

I thoroughly agree, but I don't think Money will do it until he's tried the 4-4-2 with Butler up top alongside Mooney.

I also think it would work. Its something I thought for a while, however I can't see DD being willing to try it.

Hope he proves me wrong.

[WFC_Rob]

I would start Ishmel for this game, but we have to remember that this is a match Walsall need to win more importantly than anything else. Certain people seem to think that this is the Ishmel show, which it's not. If he starts, great. If not, let's just get on with things and not moan about it.

[Neil Ravenscroft]

Personally, I'd still like to see us go 4-5-1, but I don't know if we're capable of playing it..

Normal back 4, middle 3 of Dobson sitting just behind Sonner and Wrack.

With Mooney the sole striker, and Ishmel plus one of Hall/Sonko supporting Mooney.

That Chelsea-esque 4-5-1 when defending, 4-3-3 when attacking.

I think that would work too, but we do have to remember that we haven't had everyone available for a game yet. There is an argument about the relative positions of Wrack and Sonko, but it's worth a go.

[Jolly Johnny]

Personally, I'd still like to see us go 4-5-1, but I don't know if we're capable of playing it..

Normal back 4, middle 3 of Dobson sitting just behind Sonner and Wrack.

With Mooney the sole striker, and Ishmel plus one of Hall/Sonko supporting Mooney.

That Chelsea-esque 4-5-1 when defending, 4-3-3 when attacking.

I think that would work too, but we do have to remember that we haven't had everyone available for a game yet. There is an argument about the relative positions of Wrack and Sonko, but it's worth a go.

I had discussed this with one or two people as well. Would be nice to see it tried but as said, it would be nice to see 4-4-2 with everyone available first (barring Picken of course!!) I think Wrack would play off / behind Mooney rather than Sonko and probably Hall too.

As for this Saturday, It'll probably look like:

Ince
Weston Roper Dann Boertien
Hall Dobson Sonner Wrack
Mooney Butler (if fit enough)

subs: The Boss, Ishy, Fox, Gerrard, Carneiro
Shame there's no space for any of the kids there.

1-1 with Wrack to score, 6299 with 790 from Swansea

[Duke]

This is the way i think we'll line up on saturday.


Ince
Weston - Dann - Roper - Boertien
Sonko - Dobson - Sonner - Wrack
Mooney - Butler.

subs Bossu - Gerrard - Hall - Carneiro - Ishmel .

[SaigonSaddler]

We'll hang on for a draw. I cannot realistically see a home win.

[Darlosaddler]

2-2, Mooney and Hall to get the goals.

[big baz 1]

Personally, I'd still like to see us go 4-5-1, but I don't know if we're capable of playing it..

Normal back 4, middle 3 of Dobson sitting just behind Sonner and Wrack.

With Mooney the sole striker, and Ishmel plus one of Hall/Sonko supporting Mooney.

That Chelsea-esque 4-5-1 when defending, 4-3-3 when attacking.

I like that stu mate, that would i think .

[Geordiesaddler]

Personally, I'd still like to see us go 4-5-1, but I don't know if we're capable of playing it..

Normal back 4, middle 3 of Dobson sitting just behind Sonner and Wrack.

With Mooney the sole striker, and Ishmel plus one of Hall/Sonko supporting Mooney.

That Chelsea-esque 4-5-1 when defending, 4-3-3 when attacking.

I like that stu mate, that would i think .

Yes I agree that would be interesting. I also like the idea of Wrack, Ishy, and Hall being given license to roam, all 3 can play either flank or can get beyond the striker. I think it would be very difficult to play against as all 3 are very good footballers- much more difficult than 4-4-2 with Caneiro.

[Jorge14]

Interesting idea Stu, and I think that could definately work for us away from home at bigger grounds - but do you think the Banks's pitch would be too narrow for it to work effectively?

[Neil Ravenscroft]

Match Preview - of sorts

http://upthesaddlers.com/wp/archives/20 ... preview-2/

[SWS1]

Just wondered how some people can honestly predict we will score 3 goals when we have only managed 1 in 3 games? :roll:
And on current form I would be amazed if we score 1!

Yo can never tell in football.
Walsall 2 Swansea 2
Pure guesswork. No idea, really.
My problem is (inter alia) that I can never predict a Walsall defeat. Just can't do it!
:wink: :D

[BathSaddler]

1-1 draw.

[Mr D Doffer]

:lol: Offer Here,

4-0 TO THE SUPER SADDLERS.

Ishy scoring the 1st in the 1st half on 23 mins, mooney on 56 and Ishy rounds the keeper on 78 mins, leaves the field on 80 mins to a standing ovation.

Then on 89, Carlos the substitute, makes it four.

:lol: Offer

[Stu]

Interesting idea Stu, and I think that could definately work for us away from home at bigger grounds - but do you think the Banks's pitch would be too narrow for it to work effectively?

Possibly, but its just about exploiting gaps... Carlisle did it superbly with those balls between centre half and full back.

[Registered Saddler]

Interesting idea Stu, and I think that could definately work for us away from home at bigger grounds - but do you think the Banks's pitch would be too narrow for it to work effectively?

Possibly, but its just about exploiting gaps... Carlisle did it superbly with those balls between centre half and full back.

Wikipedia has the Banks's only two yards narrower than Stamford Bridge. If it can work for them on their pitch, then it can work for us on ours.

[dave]

hi

Dave here from swansea. Hoping for a good game
but had to say how sorry I am to hear about Anton.

Dave

[dave]

hi

Dave here from swansea. Hoping for a good game
but had to say how sorry I am to hear about Anton.

Dave

[heather]

2-0 to Walsall and I don't care who scores! :D

[Surrey Saddler]

Just play the ball along the ground WFC. Not too much to ask, I hope.

[Four Oaks Saddler]

I'm in an optimistic frame of mind, so i'll go for a narrow victory - 1-0 / 2-1.

Crowd - 6,294

[Jimbo Jones]

i can see either a 2-1 saddlers win or 1-1 draw..........

Ince

Weston
Gerrard / Roper
Dann
Boertien

Hall / Sonko
Dobson
Sonner
Demontagnac

Mooney
Butler

Subs
Bossu
Roper / Gerrard
Hall / Sonko
Bradley / Nicholls
Carnerio

UP THE SADDLERS