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Bolton (H) Carling Cup 2nd Round- 19/09/06

Reports and reaction from the 2006-07 season as Walsall finished 1st (C) in League 2
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:29 am

LancsSaddler wrote:because hes the most overated player ever, he might run at people but when does he ever run past them??


Lancs, I'll say the same thing to you that I did to Rob and Leamore last week. Why does Wright need to beat anybody and get to the byline, his crossing has been excellent from deep and is finding his man 9/10 at the moment. He even came out with a couple of short crosses (which I heard people moan at!) even though it was clear he was picking out Butler on the edge of the box who applauded him for it.

So, back to my original point, how many times have you seen David Beckham beat a man with his pace or skill and get to the byeline before crossing? And has he or has he not been the best right winger in this country in the last 10 years?

So shut it. ;)
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:30 am

Magic Man Fan wrote:
LancsSaddler wrote:because hes the most overated player ever, he might run at people but when does he ever run past them??


Lancs, I'll say the same thing to you that I did to Rob and Leamore last week. Why does Wright need to beat anybody and get to the byline, his crossing has been excellent from deep and is finding his man 9/10 at the moment. He even came out with a couple of short crosses (which I heard people moan at!) even though it was clear he was picking out Butler on the edge of the box who applauded it for him.

So, back to my original point, how many times have you seen David Beckham beat a man with his pace or skill and get to the byeline before crossing? And has he or has he not been the best right winger in this country in the last 10 years?

So shut it. ;)


Thanks for saying that son, saves me doing it with added swear words.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:38 am

DawleyDick wrote:Could not get to the match as I am holiday in Spain. I had to put up with Merson's commentary on Sky Sports. He found it difficult to say anything decent about Walsall. It really choked him to say that the result flattered Bolton. What was the gate last night?


The Merson I saw commentating whilst laid up sick in bed, said that we were the better team over 90 minutes and was surprising complimentary, espeically the 2nd half... Even said that we'd easily get promoted playing like this, and the cliched "2 banks of 4" made it easy to see why we'd not conceded at home.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:32 pm

Magic Man Fan wrote:
LancsSaddler wrote:because hes the most overated player ever, he might run at people but when does he ever run past them??


Lancs, I'll say the same thing to you that I did to Rob and Leamore last week. Why does Wright need to beat anybody and get to the byline, his crossing has been excellent from deep and is finding his man 9/10 at the moment. He even came out with a couple of short crosses (which I heard people moan at!) even though it was clear he was picking out Butler on the edge of the box who applauded him for it.

So, back to my original point, how many times have you seen David Beckham beat a man with his pace or skill and get to the byeline before crossing? And has he or has he not been the best right winger in this country in the last 10 years?

So shut it. ;)


:lol:

I swear I have de ja vu...I'm sure I heard that exact same thing about 15 hours ago!

But its spot on, and I agree with you every week on every match thread. Name me 10 'tough tackling', 'hard as nails' right wingers in the modern game, and I will never, ever praise Mark Wright again. They simply are not around. Wright is there to create goals - he's done that 5 or 6 times this season at least.

And the myth he doesn't beat players? I'm sorry, but that is quite simply untrue. He did in the first half yesterday, he did in the second half yesterday. He did on Saturday. He did the week before. How I can be confident in saying that he beats his man is that in the first half I sit about 15 yards from the corner flag of the end we attack in the TXT999 stand - he beats his marker, as Sheff would say *but not about Mark Wright*, its a FACT.

He was man of the match by a mile, and the sooner people realise that the Mark Wright Appreciation Society are God's chosen people, the better it all gets for everyone.

As for everyone else, I have never seen us play 90 minutes at such a full tempo in my life. Total credit to Whitney and Money, because they lasted the pace with a Premiership team who I thought looked capable of being fantastic. Yes they play long ball, but they always find their man and they are played with such pace. Roper and Westwood were immense at the back...I'm just waiting for the next person to say "Ian Roper is slow", because you can now add £50 million man Nicolas Anelka to the list of pacy strikers that Ropes has more than matched.

I thought Kris Taylor had a fantastic game, and covered a lot of ground. He was flying in to tackles, and the partnership with Fox makes us look so solid down that left flank. Pead is still suspect, but he did well going forward and never stopped working.

Dobson did well. Last night he did the sensible job, and let Keates do all the chasing around. Keates, by the way, played the total replica of his game in the Play-off final. Thank God we didn't go to extra-time, because he would have had to crawl off. He was out on his feet.

Butler and Sam worked very hard and did all the chasing you'd expect of them. Butler's positional play nearly created a couple of clear cut chances, and he put the goal away well.

Whilst I'd have liked to have seen him brought on earlier, Ishmel's first touch summed him up and turned Nick Hunt inside out. He plays without fear, and I think we'd have really stretched them more than we did if we'd have had Wright with Ishmel on the other flank for longer.

A superb game - I can't think of a game of football I've enjoyed that much in years. It even had a haircut of yga proportions in the guise of Ian "Where is Suzi?" Walker.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:37 pm

Jorge14 wrote:I'm just waiting for the next person to say "Ian Roper is slow", because you can now add £50 million man Nicolas Anelka to the list of pacy strikers that Ropes has more than matched.


I forgot to mention that in my post.

So that's Earnshaw, Anelka, two of the quickest players around he's kept up with. Any more for the list?

Roper is slow though isn't he? :roll:

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:38 pm

Mcleod isnt exactly slow

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:41 pm

Gary Ellison Saddler wrote:Mcleod isnt exactly slow


Nor is Defoe, who couldn't even catch Ropes with a flailing boot.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:47 pm

Magic Man Fan wrote:
Jorge14 wrote:I'm just waiting for the next person to say "Ian Roper is slow", because you can now add £50 million man Nicolas Anelka to the list of pacy strikers that Ropes has more than matched.


I forgot to mention that in my post.

So that's Earnshaw, Anelka, two of the quickest players around he's kept up with. Any more for the list?

Roper is slow though isn't he? :roll:


He Ropes did week in week out in the championship for the best part of 3 seasons , and what do his critics say "he had a good partner with him "
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:50 pm

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Magic Man Fan wrote:
Jorge14 wrote:I'm just waiting for the next person to say "Ian Roper is slow", because you can now add £50 million man Nicolas Anelka to the list of pacy strikers that Ropes has more than matched.


I forgot to mention that in my post.

So that's Earnshaw, Anelka, two of the quickest players around he's kept up with. Any more for the list?

Roper is slow though isn't he? :roll:


He Ropes did week in week out in the championship for the best part of 3 seasons , and what do his critics say "he had a good partner with him "
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He had a good partner last night, Westwood was brilliant again. ;)

I think we'll be solid at the back when Wrack comes in at right back.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:51 pm

Magic Man Fan wrote:.......... and is finding his man 9/10 at the moment. ...........


Methinks your arithmetic is a bit "iffy" (or your eyesight! :D ), Magic! If MW actually looked up and tried to place his crosses with some degree of accuracy then he might improve upon his "success" rate which is nearer 1 out of 6 than 9 out of 10. How many times in a match does he over-hit the ball beyond ALL of the players? This lack of a consistent end-product is my biggest criticism of him and I hope DD's coaching can work an improvement in him.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:53 pm

to be honest MMF , I Rated the Roper / Hay partnership . then of course
Roper / Ritchie was special .

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:03 pm

Leamore Saddler wrote:
Magic Man Fan wrote:.......... and is finding his man 9/10 at the moment. ...........


Methinks your arithmetic is a bit "iffy" (or your eyesight! :D ), Magic! If MW actually looked up and tried to place his crosses with some degree of accuracy then he might improve upon his "success" rate which is nearer 1 out of 6 than 9 out of 10. How many times in a match does he over-hit the ball beyond ALL of the players? This lack of a consistent end-product is my biggest criticism of him and I hope DD's coaching can work an improvement in him.


Absolute rubbish Leamore. Get your old eyes tested. Most of his crosses have been accurate this season. Unfortunately we only have Butler with any instinct to get in the box to make the most of them.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:09 pm

isshy showed wright how to be winger with his first touch beat a player then put a quality ball in for wright who pussied out of a shot so half passed it to butler. ishy then chased back and did a quality tackle. when was the last time wright did a sliding tackle!!!

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Magic Man Fan wrote:
Leamore Saddler wrote:
Magic Man Fan wrote:.......... and is finding his man 9/10 at the moment. ...........


Methinks your arithmetic is a bit "iffy" (or your eyesight! :D ), Magic! If MW actually looked up and tried to place his crosses with some degree of accuracy then he might improve upon his "success" rate which is nearer 1 out of 6 than 9 out of 10. How many times in a match does he over-hit the ball beyond ALL of the players? This lack of a consistent end-product is my biggest criticism of him and I hope DD's coaching can work an improvement in him.


Absolute rubbish Leamore. Get your old eyes tested. Most of his crosses have been accurate this season. Unfortunately we only have Butler with any instinct to get in the box to make the most of them.


I agree Mark. On four occasions that I can remember this season,Mark Wright has put a decent cross into the box and no-one has been there because Butler went to the front post and Sam was languishing somewhere on the edge of the area. Like Mark said the crosses are getting in there, but there is no one getting on the end of them.

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LancsSaddler wrote:isshy showed wright how to be winger with his first touch beat a player then put a quality ball in for wright who pussied out of a shot so half passed it to butler. ishy then chased back and did a quality tackle. when was the last time wright did a sliding tackle!!!


You haven't answered my questions and until someone does I will not even begin to reconsider my opinion on Wright.

In fact Wright did beat Campo last night on a few occasions, most notable when he megs him and Campo stood and obstructed him but D'Urso didn't give anything.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:22 pm

LancsSaddler wrote:when was the last time wright did a sliding tackle!!!


Why would you want anyone to slide tackle? First rule to defenders is to stay on your feet. If you make a slide tackle and miss, the player skips past and you are out of the game. It should only be used as a last possible option.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:42 pm

I just cannot believe people are still knocking Wright . He's been great
this season .
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Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:53 pm

Gary Ellison Saddler wrote:Mcleod isnt exactly slow



......... I was born in 1518 in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel. And I am immortal.





RAR!











YGA! :shock:

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:30 pm

well i dont think anyone has criticised wright anymore than me but (and admitedly i have only seen him once) i couldn't beleive the change in him...lets hope he keeps it up.

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KJC wrote:
Gary Ellison Saddler wrote:Mcleod isnt exactly slow



......... I was born in 1518 in the village of Glenfinnan on the shores of Loch Shiel. And I am immortal.





RAR!

You really should get out more KJC. :lol:











YGA! :shock:

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ws3 wrote:You really should get out more KJC. :lol:



You gorra love Highlander



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Or the Sondtrack, at least!

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aldridge steve wrote::lol: Just remembered the "block of the night". Anelka (I think) hit a right old powerblaster of a shot which hit Ropes on the edge of the area and almost went back to their keeper. Nearly crippled Ropes! The was one hell of a block!

I saw that!! That had some right power on that shot..fairplay to ropes! :shock:

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:02 pm

Strange - on the British version of Sky, Merson was very complimentary about Walsall - how well they were playing, dominating the match, all over Bolton in the second half, and how lucky Bolton were - not only to win, but not to lose. His only criticisms were that Butler should have had a hat trick, and Ince shouldn't have given the corner away from which they scored their second goal.

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coxy_saddler wrote:
aldridge steve wrote::lol: Just remembered the "block of the night". Anelka (I think) hit a right old powerblaster of a shot which hit Ropes on the edge of the area and almost went back to their keeper. Nearly crippled Ropes! The was one hell of a block!

I saw that!! That had some right power on that shot..fairplay to ropes! :shock:


that shot hurt him aswell, but fair play to roper

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:23 pm

Magic Man Fan wrote:
LancsSaddler wrote:when was the last time wright did a sliding tackle!!!


Why would you want anyone to slide tackle? First rule to defenders is to stay on your feet. If you make a slide tackle and miss, the player skips past and you are out of the game. It should only be used as a last possible option.


More so, why on earth do you want your right winger throwing himself into last ditch slide tackles?

I don't want him running around like a lemon on speed chasing up and down after the ball, as he has enough running to do down the flanks, and thats one of my concerns of Ishmel.

A wingers job is to provide width, put crosses in the box and offer protection when needed to his right back... Wright is doing that, and doing that effectively.

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Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:28 pm

I have always been a fan of Mark Wright since he started playing for us all those years ago . Like you say which wingers do may a tackle not many

As for Westie loved him from the day he signed for

But I'll joing Percie and Gaz

Marky Wright Wright Wright :wink:

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wfc_2uk wrote:How many fast tricky wingers actually make hard crunching challenges??... answers on a postcard.

Lay off Wrighty.

BTW Geoff, was that your lad Chris that I spoke to last night walking back from the ground?


Yes Kev, Chris was the (27 year-old) lad with me, thought you'd met him before mate. :?

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Pedro wrote:I have always been a fan of Mark Wright since he started playing for us all those years ago . Like you say which wingers do may a tackle not many

As for Westie loved him from the day he signed for

But I'll joing Percie and Gaz

Marky Wright Wright Wright :wink:


Nothing against Mark Wright, but that chant is just to gay for words... As someone who is called Mark, nothing i hate more than being called Marky!

Cue everyone calling me Marky :roll:

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Blazing_Saddler wrote:
Pedro wrote:I have always been a fan of Mark Wright since he started playing for us all those years ago . Like you say which wingers do may a tackle not many

As for Westie loved him from the day he signed for

But I'll joing Percie and Gaz

Marky Wright Wright Wright :wink:


Nothing against Mark Wright, but that chant is just to gay for words... As someone who is called Mark, nothing i hate more than being called Marky!

Cue everyone calling me Marky :roll:


Point taken Marky :wink:

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Blazing_Saddler wrote:
Pedro wrote:I have always been a fan of Mark Wright since he started playing for us all those years ago . Like you say which wingers do may a tackle not many

As for Westie loved him from the day he signed for

But I'll joing Percie and Gaz

Marky Wright Wright Wright :wink:


Nothing against Mark Wright, but that chant is just to gay for words... As someone who is called Mark, nothing i hate more than being called Marky!

Cue everyone calling me Marky :roll:


Nah, we will stick to 'sausage' :D

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